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Featured Are Christians polytheists?

Discussion in 'Religious Debates' started by Servant_of_the_One1, Nov 26, 2015.

  1. Servant_of_the_One1

    Servant_of_the_One1 Well-Known Member

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    By that definition then Hindus are monotheists too!
    They believe all their gods are manifestations of One God.

    I wished it was that simple :)

    U either with One or Three/Millions.
     
  2. Muffled

    Muffled Jesus in me

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    No. We worship one God. Catholics may come close to worshiping Mary but their theology is often at variance with true Christianity. Not everything that wears a Christian label is actually Christian just as terrorists wear an Islamic label but are not truly Islamic..
     
  3. Muffled

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    I can hear you and forgive your sins. However it is God that is doing so, so that means that it is not multiple gods.

    Jesus is God in the flesh so He has every right to forgive sins and was recorded having done so in the Bible.

    I believe you lack clarity on this subject.
     
  4. Kelly of the Phoenix

    Kelly of the Phoenix Well-Known Member

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    Twisting the meaning of the word "one" doesn't make it true, though. Yes, I perfectly understand Christianity teaches God is one. However, that doesn't work out in many ways. It's a tortured logic to deny the people were polytheistic. That's it, really.
     
  5. Useless2015

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    Believing God has 2 equal partners is polytheism. Jesus himself said that the utter most important commandment is that God is ONE with no OTHERS beside him. One Lord, One deity. Not part of a trinity, does not have equals.


    29Jesus answered, “The most important is, ‘Hear, O Israel, the Lord our God is one Lord,30and you must love the Lord your God with all your heart, with all your soul, with all your mind, and with all your strength.’31The second is this: ‘You must love your neighbor as yourself.’No other commandment is greater than these.”

    32Then the scribe told him, “Well said,Teacher! You have told the truth that ‘God is one, and there is no other besides him.33To love him with all your heart, with all your understanding, and with all your strength, and to love your neighbor as yourself is more important than all the burnt offerings and sacrifices.”

    34When Jesus saw how wisely the man answered, he told him, “You are not far from the kingdom of God.” After that, no one dared to ask him another question.
     
  6. dawny0826

    dawny0826 Mother Heathen

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    I propose that the holder of such beliefs is in a better position than you to decide as to whether or not they are monotheistic or polytheistic.

    Some Hindus consider themselves monotheistic and others do not.
     
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  7. Father Heathen

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    The concept of the trinity is simply 3 facets of the same entity. I don't believe in it, yet I get it. It's not complicated, so it's confusing why some people struggle with it. Also, people know better than anyone else what's in their own mind and 'heart'. To presume to know what someone else believes better than they themselves do is quite arrogant and asinine.
     
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  8. sojourner

    sojourner Annoyingly Progressive Since 2006

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    Are you familiar with the doctrine -- or are you merely refuting the nature of the theology based on assumption? It's quite specific in its assertion that God is One, and that the Persons involved are not separate gods. Read. The. Doctrine.
     
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    sojourner Annoyingly Progressive Since 2006

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    See, you don't get the theology. Therefore your argument is a non-argument. God doesn't have "two equal partners." The Doctrine is specific in its statement, and accompanying explanation, that God is One.
    God is patently not "part of a trinity." God is Trinity.
     
  10. Aset's Flames

    Aset's Flames Viperine Asetian

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    Ah so I can see you have a lack of understanding of Wiccan and Hindu theology as they claim the same.

    In many forms of Hinduism all the gods are part of the godhead.

    And in traditional Wicca the god and goddess are part of one deity.

    So if you wish to claim you are monotheistic in that manner than you should refer to these relgions as monotheistic.
     
  11. Muffled

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    I believe there is no tortured logic. One is "one" and never will be anything different. I believe it always works and no twisting is necessary.
     
  12. Muffled

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    I believe I know what you mean but this is not really true. God is quite happy to be a unity without involving Himself as a trinity so His essence is unity but for the purpose of salvation He became The Trinity while at the same time never giving up His essence of unity.

    I believe you have this right but the statement should be that God is the Trinity not God is Trinity.

    I believe you are quite correct. God always runs His own show.
     
  13. Muffled

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    I believe there is a tendency to deify attributes of God. I can't categorically state that this happens in Hinduism but I suspect that is the case. I know it happens with some quasi Christians who will say God is love and forget that God is also just. What happens is a false worship of an Idolized version of God. A true Christian will view Jesus and the Paraclete as having all the attributes of God because they are God. So the people who try to delineate Jesus as the God is love attribute and forget that He is coming in Judgement at the end of the world are being idolatrous and viewing the Trinity as separate gods.
     
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    Can you please supply us with proof?
     
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    A lot of statements with no evidance.
     
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    It is true that many due, however many people call themselves several things that are false.

    If I consider myself to be of physically Mandarin descent does that mean that I am?
     
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    What sort of proof?
     
  18. dawny0826

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    Maybe. Maybe not. What I'm getting at - it's not my place to arrogantly project upon you what is or isn't as per your self-identification.
     
  19. sojourner

    sojourner Annoyingly Progressive Since 2006

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    I'm only speaking to the doctrine of the Trinity, which is specific in its explanation that each Person isn't "a god," but is God.
     
  20. Sleeppy

    Sleeppy Fatalist. Christian. Pacifist.

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    Actually, you're a polytheist/idolater as well. The majority of Christians, Muslims, and Jews are all idolaters.
     
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