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jvi said:Is that link I just posted considered an attachment?
The Tanach is the New Testament? What the heck are you talking about Ronald?Ronald said:Scott, surely you jest! You know full well of the Tanach, or are you hiding behind a Canon?
I don't know... maybe it's me....but did the Jewish world embrace Jesus as the Christ and I have somehow missed it? These people in A.D. 167 ... were Jews.... who worshiped Christ.... and compiled the NT Canon of Scripture? What page is that on?:help:Ronald said:The earliest of these writers was Papias (Fragment 6), dating from about A.D. 167, who records, "Matthew compiled the sayings of Jesus in the Hebrew tongue, and everyone translated them as well as he could" (Eusebius, Ecclesiastical History, III,39,1).
Am I in bizzaro world? You are quoting me NT text in defense of the OT as authoritative because..... why?2Ti 3:16 All scripture is inspired by God and profitable for teaching, for reproof, for correction, and for training in righteousness,
You know this is(Tanach) the only Scripture being spoken of in 2 Ti. 3:16. No New Testament.
Well, thank you! Welcome to Religious Forums!kristiano said:So, is the Catholic Church Christian...
Yes, yes it is
jews who worshipped christ would be called christians, being such does not invalidate their being jewish in all senses of the word.SOGFPP said:These people in A.D. 167 ... were Jews.... who worshiped Christ.... and compiled the NT Canon of Scripture? What page is that on?
So you agree with this statment HelpMe?roli said:Catholics even went as far as to create and compile their own Catholic version of the bible from books and stories that never were part of the original canonization where selected jewish scholars arranged and compiled the Holy Bible upon the leading of the Holy Spirit.
Good, I can PM you to translate.HelpMe said:i understand ron for the most part.
I have no idea what that means.....HelpMe said:i would say that statement should not be limited to catholics.
Yeah, you're right.i would say 23 pages is alot, and for this reason i do not respond to everything said.
lol.
I went to the first site you posted and read that. What stick in my mind most about it is that by thinking that they should do good works, Catholics are damned, because they obviously don't believe that Christ's sacrifice was enough...simguy83 said:Anybody who reads either of those verses regarding communion will take it as symbolic. Unless of course they have been poisoned by the highly blashpeming and insulting catholic doctrines which will then influence their thinking. Jesus often spoke in parables and used symbolic language, his work is finished - it is not repeated constantly.
I agree.... (suprise suprise)..... but things like this are just lack of education.lady_lazarus said:What stick in my mind most about it is that by thinking that they should do good works, Catholics are damned, because they obviously don't believe that Christ's sacrifice was enough...What a pack of tripe!
i wouldn't say the(we[including you and i]) 'christians' are the only guilty party(see some talmud references) involved or that each member of the organization is guilty of said accusation, but great point.Ronald said:What Christians fail to see is that Yeshua's first coming was to tear down the wall of separation between the Hebrew and the Gentile. For nearly 2000 years you Christians have tried to build it back.
I understand your counter sarcasm and Jewish opposition towards my postion as a follower of Jesus Christ and trusting Him as my Lord and Savior only thru a revealation by his Spirit. This was a 2 part process for me , Saw my sin :banghead3 and Turned and trusted and recievedjewscout said:Sooooo you keep kosher??
Perhaps I am very much mistaken and am interpreting this comment in a manner in which it was not meant? I hope that is the case.Ronald said:I am sorry you have been a Christian so long you have forgotten the Word of God.
The Voice of Reason said:Upon advice from the moderator (Mr. Sprinkles), I am starting a thread to discuss whether Catholics are Christians.
To be honest, I would say that it is utter nonsense to even be discussing this. This debate stems from the post of a member that is making the distinction between "Christians" and "Catholics". For my limited knowledge, it would seem that Catholics have more right to make the claim that they are Christian than any of the Protestant faith. As an Agnostic, I don't really care where this goes, but I'd hate to see an entire generation of Protestants grow up thinking that Catholics were something other than Christian.
TVOR