An eternal hell is a consequence, right?
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Are Buddhist and Hindu Scriptures Inaccurate?
- Thread starter SalixIncendium
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Although I had to look it up, it's the same, or similar to the Hindu view. But it's also made very clear it's very different from the Abrahamic view.
Naraka (Jainism) - Wikipedia
It's a consequence of our sins it's not about God punishing us.
I just saw there's a Hindu concept with the same name. Naraka (Hinduism) - Wikipedia
I always thought Yama's abode was called Yamaloka based on my understanding of the Katha upanishad.
I believe that hell is being alone for eternity in outer darkness. What do you think about that? Everything that exists has order. That makes more sense than a dimension of demons punishing people.
How does karma work?
What do you think about the belief of the sowing and reaping of life?
Assumo
As you know, both the Buddha and Krishna indicated that from age to age another Buddha arises and Krishna returns to re-establish religion. This is in both scriptures.
If this is true then may we not obtain that information from Their future appearances? I believe this holds the key. For instance Maitreya and Kalki would be quite capable of conveying what is true and what has been misunderstood.
I personally believe this has occurred except that both Maitreya and Kali are One and the same Person.
Interestingly, some popular beliefs have been discarded as erroneous and vain imaginings, while others upheld. One such claim is that Buddha taught that there was one God, but these teachings were lost. Historically this cannot be proven, but if the Spokesperson was indeed Maitreya, then I would entertain no doubt whatsoever about its accuracy.
Why do you think Matrieya exists in multiple faiths?
Maitreya is supposed to be the future Buddha prophesied in their scriptures just as the second coming is promised in the Gospels. I’m saying that I believe that these are One and same Person. So Kalki, Maitreya, return of Jesus are all referring to the coming of a Great Messiah which I am firmly convinced, has already appeared and that in time ‘all eyes will see’.
Why do you think Judaism doesn't believe in the second coming of the Messiah?
Its still awaiting like all the other religions.
Why do you think all people Christian or not believe in the Messiah?
I'm also interested to hear which specific parts of those scriptures are flawed.
In the case of Krihna and Shiva, their lives very much reinforce their teachings so I would think that their lives play a very important or even essential role in how they affected the development of human civilisation.
Perhaps a similar thing can be said about the importance of the life of Jesus on a more modest level.
I have no concept of such a hell. Hell, in my view, is a state of mind that exists only in transactional reality.
I glossed over this in a previous post.
Karma, in my understanding, is causality. Cause/effect. Action/reaction.
There is a cosmic record of one's deeds. Benevolent deeds bring positive consequences. Malevolent deeds bring negative consequences. The degree of severity of these deeds comes into play as well and will determine how long it will take to "burn off" that karma, whether it be positive or negative.
In my view, a being in transactional reality has layers, or sheaths, if you will, called "koshas." The gross body which is your physical form, that which can be objectively perceived by others; the subtle body which is your character, thoughts, feelings, emotions, etc.; the causal body which more difficult to describe, the best way I can describe it would be imprints of one's past lives, a cloud storage of sorts; and finally the Atman which is one's true Self. Karma, in my understanding, is carried in the causal body, which transmigrates from incarnation to incarnation.
So even if a deed is done in the moments before death, the causal body carries that karma onto the next life.
This is essentially the same as karma. One reaps what one sows.
firedragon
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There is a book called pansiya panas jathaka which are about the Buddhas past lives. Beginning from its dating to the very nature of the addition to some of the other scripture as foundational stories proves that they lack authenticity.
About his life, the Buddhacharitha is probably the oldest source but is around 600 years after his assumed death. Asvaghosha meaning the sound or noise of a horse lived in this era and was not a historian but a Buddhist poet who romanticised the Buddha.
Then comes other narratives from the time when the Buddhas first images were concocted by the king Dharmashoka who hired a guy from Thailand to create his image according to his vision of how the Buddha may have looked. And they have many many contradictions between one another. Sometimes contradicting the same teachings of the Buddha. But that I think may be a topic for another thread.
Also you should know that some of the names mentioned in his life story like his initial teachers he eventually left, Kondanga, baddiya, wappa, mahanama, assagi in combination have been argued by some scholars to not originate from the geographical areas where he supposedly dwelt.
Bottomline is, since you asked about his life, its far too distant from his time, and has had a huge evolution through time.
Apologies, I am not much versed in the Hindu texts and their histories to tell you anything similar.
So both the Hindus and Buddhists got it wrong, in your view? The Hindu scriptures are inaccurate.