Are Atheists evil?

[Road Warrior]

If you want to define evil like that then yes, atheists are evil. I don't think that's what you believe evil to be however.

As posted repeatedly on this forum and reposted in my "examples" above, that is exactly what I believe. Evil isn't a force any more than darkness is a force. It's simply a lack of God.

 

[Koldo]

If evil is defined as being away from or without God just like darkness is without light or cold is without heat, then does this mean atheists or anyone else who chooses to be without God are evil?

You are defining a word with a string of words that needs to be defined in itself. What does it mean to be away from or without God?

 

[9Westy9]

As posted repeatedly on this forum and reposted in my "examples" above, that is exactly what I believe. Evil isn't a force any more than darkness is a force. It's simply a lack of God.

So then Hitler wasn't evil? Interesting way of looking at things

 

[Road Warrior]

Or are you simply upset because this time, by specifically claiming that atheists are evil simply because of their lack of belief in any god concept, you have been called out?

Not upset at all. Simply curious about your aggression on the matter and repeated violation of this rule:

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Feel free to disagree with my definition, my beliefs or the OP, but repeatedly making statements like "you simply upset" or "you have been called out" are not in line with the TOS. Have a nice day, TW.

 

[Road Warrior]

So then Hitler wasn't evil? Interesting way of looking at things

With due regards to Godwin's Law, yes he was. Simply because a person uses religion as a tool doesn't mean they are good or "with God". Look at pedophile priests and Fred Phelps for other examples of people who are without God.

 

[9Westy9]

With due regards to Godwin's Law, yes he was. Simply because a person uses religion as a tool doesn't mean they are good or "with God". Look at pedophile priests and Fred Phelps for other examples of people who are without God.

I also recognise the no true Scotsman fallacy

 

[InformedIgnorance]

Obviously. Just like your post(s).

God bless you for recognizing that simple fact. :angel2:

As in the examples I've posted above to Tumbleweed, I don't believe "evil" is a force in its own right any more than cold or darkness is. It is simply a lack of God/goodness.

IS god good though and even if god is good, does god act as a source of goodness (moreover how would one go about tapping that source), and even if he is a source of goodness is he the ONLY source of goodness?

It is a rather large leap you make.

 

[Jayhawker Soule]

Any thread predicated upon the likes of ...

If evil is defined as being away from or without God ... does this mean atheists or anyone else who chooses to be without God are evil?

is pretty much guaranteed to be laughable.

 

[Nakosis]

If evil is defined as being away from or without God just like darkness is without light or cold is without heat, then does this mean atheists or anyone else who chooses to be without God are evil?

Thoughts?

I don't believe in evil men. I believe in ignorance.
Ignorance allows man to accept what's been created in darkness as the truth. If you want to define evil I would perhaps define it as a lack of truth.

The darkness is just shadows. The absence of light. If one denies the light then one is left with only shadows to believe in. Belief in the shadows can cause men to commit evil acts.

So men are not evil but ignorance of the light can cause men to do evil things.

Coincidentally, is anyone curious why atheists love to bring up the subject of evil?

To question why a loving God would allow it.

 

[tumbleweed41]

Not upset at all. Simply curious about your aggression on the matter...

You started a thread, asked for others thoughts on your position, and it has been given.

and repeated violation of this rule:

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[idav]

With due regards to Godwin's Law, yes he was. Simply because a person uses religion as a tool doesn't mean they are good or "with God". Look at pedophile priests and Fred Phelps for other examples of people who are without God.

God is supposed to be everywhere but you don't think god would stick around while we act like animals. Are people with god when they have sex with a spouse vs having an affair?

 

[Road Warrior]

IS god good though and even if god is good, does god act as a source of goodness (moreover how would one go about tapping that source), and even if he is a source of goodness is he the ONLY source of goodness?

It is a rather large leap you make.

All beliefs and things taken on faith regardless if one is a theist, deist, atheist, whatever, are a large leap. A leap of faith to be exact.

In my spiritual journey which began being raised in RLDS, becoming an atheist, then agnostic and then coming back to a belief that there is more to existence than simply what we see in front of our noses, this is, in part, what I've come to believe.

 

[Road Warrior]

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I can't comment on this.

 

[BobbyisStrange]

Garbage in. Garbage out.

Hahahaha Jayhawker, trust me, my post was to show how absurd this thread is…I do not believe anyone is evil due to a belief system or because of their lack of belief.

 

[Road Warrior]

God is supposed to be everywhere but you don't think god would stick around while we act like animals. Are people with god when they have sex with a spouse vs having an affair?

The concept of free will says people are free to choose. The dichotomy of the Universe allows them a choice. "To be or not to be", to be with God or without. Their call.

To answer your question, I do not know since I cannot see what is in their heart. Usually adultery is wrong since it harms another or breaks a promise, but there are circumstances in which it is not such as by mutual consent.

 

[Dirty Penguin]

All beliefs and things taken on faith regardless if one is a theist, deist, atheist, whatever, are a large leap. A leap of faith to be exact.

I disagree. I'm confident that when I get off work my car will start allowing be to drive home. I'm confident about most things based on evidence. As you know..faith is believing something without the requirement of evidence.

 

[Koldo]

I would still like to have an answer to my former post.

 

[Road Warrior]

I would still like to have an answer to my former post.

I'm still waiting for you to answer mine to you from previous thread. Until then, enjoy your wait.

 

[Road Warrior]

I disagree. I'm confident that when I get off work my car will start allowing be to drive home. I'm confident about most things based on evidence. As you know..faith is believing something without the requirement of evidence.

Correct.

 

[InformedIgnorance]

All beliefs and things taken on faith regardless if one is a theist, deist, atheist, whatever, are a large leap. A leap of faith to be exact.

In my spiritual journey which began being raised in RLDS, becoming an atheist, then agnostic and then coming back to a belief that there is more to existence than simply what we see in front of our noses, this is, in part, what I've come to believe.

I see, yet you should realise that in taking such a leap of faith you arrive at a position by which if others do not share your faith all you are standing on is air - from the perspective of those without your faith, it is not a position which seems like you defy the laws of physics but rather that you are beginning to fall.

A leap of faith only seems solid to those with that same faith, to everyone else, the position is untenable.