Architect : A Grand Design

[Thief]

So says the guy who wastes so much time here denying that time exists.

point taken

and you are a poster with how many posts to your credit?

 

[Revoltingest]

point taken

and you are a poster with how many posts to your credit?

This is why I know so much more than thee about time.

 

[Thief]

This is why I know so much more than thee about time.

not buying that

I suspect haggis poisoning

 

[Revoltingest]

not buying that

I suspect haggis poisoning

Haggis benefits from time.

 

[Thief]

you let it ferment?

 

[shunyadragon]

the measure is not a reality

According to Einstein the time-space continuum is the reality of our physical universe.

light moves

Therefore time exists, the speed of light

. . . we measure

We cannot measure something that does not exist.

 

[shunyadragon]

only on a chalkboard

No time on a chalkboard.

 

[shunyadragon]

point taken

and you are a poster with how many posts to your credit?

The argument from volume requires a shovel and lots of burlap bags.

E=mc2 if time does not exist neither does energy nor mass.

 

[Thief]

no really.....

distance is a measure created by Man
and time is a measure of movement.....created by Man

time is a quotient

 

[shunyadragon]

no really.....

distance is a measure created by Man

The distance measurements may be created by humans but the distances exist in the time-space reality described by humans.

and time is a measure of movement.....created by Man

time is a quotient

Yes, the measurement of time is made by humans, the time exists in three dimensional time/space for humans to measure such as the speed of light.

Again, for matter, light and energy to exist time and space must exist, according to Einstein E=mc2.

 

[Thief]

The distance measurements may be created by humans but the distances exist in the time-space reality described by humans.


Yes, the measurement of time is made by humans, the time exists in three dimensional time/space for humans to measure such as the speed of light.

Again, for matter, light and energy to exist time and space must exist, according to Einstein E=mc2.

you're stuck in numbers

the numbers are stuck in your head

you are stuck

but not in time
so...take your time
in time you will eventually realize.....there was nothing there

 

[shunyadragon]

you're stuck in numbers

the numbers are stuck in your head

you are stuck

but not in time
so...take your time
in time you will eventually realize.....there was nothing there

Naturally there are no numbers on time, space, mass nor energy and never claimed the did. For them to exist naturally no human defined numbers need exist. Science is descriptive, and does assign numbers and scales for human use, but the do exist regardless human measurement systems.

 

[Thief]

no human defined numbers need exist.

and movement is real enough

and would be there.....whether we measure it ….or not

 

[shunyadragon]

and movement is real enough

and would be there.....whether we measure it ….or not

time, space, energy, mass and light exist regardless of whether humans exist or not

 

[Thief]

time, space, energy, mass and light exist regardless of whether humans exist or not

strike that first word.....and then you have it right

 

[shunyadragon]

strike that first word.....and then you have it right

Einstein described the necessity and relationship of time, space, energy, matter to exist in our physical universe in his Theory of Relativity, and E=mc2, which cannot work without time.

Einstein correctly concluded that past, present and future are illusions, not time.

 

[Thief]

Einstein described the necessity and relationship of time, space, energy, matter to exist in our physical universe in his Theory of Relativity, and E=mc2, which cannot work without time.

Einstein correctly concluded that past, present and future are illusions, not time.

it should be obvious ….why do you persist?

the relationship is an equation

all in your head

no where else

 

[shunyadragon]

it should be obvious ….why do you persist?

the relationship is an equation

all in your head

no where else

With movement time exists.

it should be obvious ….why do you persist?

 

[Thief]

With movement time exists.

nay...…..the movement has been there
will be there
and will never stop

long after our clocks cease to tick

 

[shunyadragon]

nay...…..the movement has been there
will be there
and will never stop.

As long as there is movement there is time. Actually, time and space may end with the end of our universe and every possible universe, and all returns to the Quantum state, and of course, begin again with the expansion of every possible universe.

long after our clocks cease to tick

The existence of time has nothing to with clocks.