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Any Other Fans Of Foundation?

Discussion in 'TV Talk' started by Revoltingest, Nov 27, 2021.

  1. Revoltingest

    Revoltingest Abnormal before it was fashionable
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    I just posted this in another thread.....
    In the TV series, "Foundation", the ruler (known as Brother Day
    to his fellow clones) is called "Empire". In this scene he punishes
    Azura for plotting against The Empire. So cold....so very cold.


    Lee Pace (Brother Day) was also Ned the pie man in Pushing Daisies.
    Dang...he's good...very good, especially when he's very bad.
     
  2. PureX

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    Yes, I have been watching it, too. And It's pretty interesting, and unique. Sometimes a little hard to follow, but it's engaging enough that each piece of the story stands on it's own.
     
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    It helps to have read the books.
    Been several decades for me though.
     
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    I'm not sure why, but when I started watching the series I had the feeling that I was glad I had not read the books. For some reason I feel like I wouldn't have liked the written stories. Could be completely wrong, of course, but I did have that intuition.

    The science fiction that I've read in the past and liked tended not to be so closely tied to contemporary issue as this series seems to be. It was more playful and speculative and less foreboding. But I don't find this aspect of the tv series to be an issue. Just an observation.
     
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    I enjoyed the books.
    The series seems a bit different, but interesting.
     
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    From the OP, it seems to be very unlike the Asimov books. And I don't subscribe to the streaming outlet it's on so even if I was motivated to see how far they've butchered Asimov, I'd have to pay just for that privilege.
     
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    I think it was, 'Pushing up, Daisies' Pace won an emmy for that. I don't think it lasted too long but I thought the plot line was original. The ability to touch and bring back the deceased. Then falls in love with a girl he resurrects but he can't touch someone he saves because they will die again and he can't save someone twice. I'm not familiar with Foundation.
     
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    A fan of the books.
     
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    Just a note ... you can subscribe to most any streaming service for free for the first month, watch whatever it was you wanted to watch, and then unsubscribe. These days the various services seem to only have one or maybe two things I actually ever want to see, and I don't want to keep adding services that I won't otherwise use. So that's what I do. I subscribe, watch what little they have, and then unsubscribe, and as long as I remember to unsubscribe within the 30 day trial period, it's free. And most of them will allow you to do that as often as you like. They are banking on most people signing up and then forgetting to unsubscribe. As I am sure many people do.
     
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    I don't mind a re-interpretation if it's interesting.
     
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    I had hoped I would have liked it more than I do, not saying that it is bad. But for some reason almost none of the characters really click with me, like they are sort of plain or doesn't have enough personality, to really keep me all that interested in them. I do agree, that I find the weird scientist can't remember his name, the girl he is working together with and the Empire to be the most interesting ones. But even they are only mediocre at best I think.

    Also I think the story could have been a bit more interesting or specific if that makes sense, the whole "some" sort of threat thing to the Empire from something pretty vague and undefined seems to make for a story that is going to be drawn out for a long time, until the writers suddenly decide to push it along.

    So I think its ok, but im far from being all excited about it, if im bored Ill see it, kind of thing.
     
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    Should I say? Made you look ! Was my plot line even wrong ? I seem to remember Kristin Chenowith was a cast member,probably wrong on that too, win some lose some.
     
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    She was indeed on the show.
     
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    Its a great series. I am fairly certain that they have made some changes from the book, and I like that its not exactly the same.
     
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    I read the books by Isaac Asimov years ago. I was in my teens when I read my first one. I am now 70. I have been wanting for many years for a series based on the books. The recent Foundation season of 10 episodes only covers the first Seldon crisis which involves Salvor Hardin. In the first book of the trilogy this covers the first 70 pages. Salvor Hardin in the book was a he, in the series he was a she. Gaal Dornick was a minor player in the book and was a he, in the series she has a larger role. There was no Brother Day or Empire in the book, no brother Dawn, or brother Dusk. Eto had a part in Asimov's prequels to the trilogy, but was a he in those books and followed the three law of robotics. This robot doesn't seem to do that. It doesn't observe the first law. Harm no human or through inaction allow him to come to harm. This robot was originally called Daneel Olivaw, and thousands of years ago had helped a detective called Elijah Bailey solve crimes. I see no hint so far of that background or that Eto or Daneel had set Hari Seldon on his course as psychohistorian. At one point she did say she was 11,000 years old. Asimov extended the foundation series later in life, and it turned out that Daneel was the hidden center behind the books Foundation's Edge and Foundation and Earth. Unfortunately after those books Asimov decided to write the prequels, and died before he could continue more foundation books after Foundation and Earth as he intended to.

    The plot of this series had hardly any resemblance to the book. Nevertheless this made the series interesting to me because I didn't know what was happening next. I'm glad to hear there will be a second season. I joined Apple+ just to see this series.

    Sorry to run my mouth over this, but I am an enthusiastic Foundation fan. The original trilogy consisted of Foundation, Foundation and Empire, and Second Foundation. If the producers so choose they could cover those books plus the extension to the series he added later. This is if it is not cancelled along the way.
     
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    Me too, and it was very different. I didn't know what was coming next. The Asimov books didn't have much action, which I think is why they have more action in this series, and why no series was made until now.
     
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    You must not have read the books. The series was very different from the books. I like the unpredictability of the series even with my knowledge of the books.
     
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    I read them twice, and yes. I mean...no cigars? No cigars! I can't believe that Salvor Harding isn't smoking cigars. Maybe it happens in a later episode. I actually am a few shows behind.
     
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    Sorry, from your comment it appeared to me you had not read them. But no harm done.
     
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