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Another Warmist Talking Point

Nakosis

Nakosis

Non-Binary Physicalist
Premium Member
Looks like another warmist talking point is about to go down the memory hole, assuming it’s not too clogged with ice.

Snowfall in the Sierra Nevada has remained consistent for 130 years, with no evidence that anything has changed as a result of climate change, according to a study released Tuesday.

The analysis of snowfall data in the Sierra going back to 1878 found no more or less snow overall – a result that, on the surface, appears to contradict aspects of recent climate change models.

John Christy, the Alabama state climatologist who authored the study, said the amount of snow in the mountains has not decreased in the past 50 years, a period when greenhouse gases were supposed to have increased the effects of global warming.


Of course, you realize what this means: John Christy and his loathsome cohorts are no longer scientists, if they ever were, and they must be destroyed.

The science is settled. The debate is over. No new facts and no takebacks. Not fair. Not fair!!
Global warming is melting the Sierra Nevada snow pack (in some alternate universe)

 
BSM1

BSM1

What? Me worry?
No, wait...this is just another example of the cleverness of GW/CC. The snow should have definitely decreased even to the point of non-existence in the Sierra Nevadas due to Global Warming. However, Climate Change snuck and wouldn't allow that to happen. Where's Al Gore when you need him?
 
exchemist

exchemist

Veteran Member
Nakosis said:
Looks like another warmist talking point is about to go down the memory hole, assuming it’s not too clogged with ice.

Snowfall in the Sierra Nevada has remained consistent for 130 years, with no evidence that anything has changed as a result of climate change, according to a study released Tuesday.

The analysis of snowfall data in the Sierra going back to 1878 found no more or less snow overall – a result that, on the surface, appears to contradict aspects of recent climate change models.

John Christy, the Alabama state climatologist who authored the study, said the amount of snow in the mountains has not decreased in the past 50 years, a period when greenhouse gases were supposed to have increased the effects of global warming.


Of course, you realize what this means: John Christy and his loathsome cohorts are no longer scientists, if they ever were, and they must be destroyed.

The science is settled. The debate is over. No new facts and no takebacks. Not fair. Not fair!!
Global warming is melting the Sierra Nevada snow pack (in some alternate universe)
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Chortle, chortle. :rolleyes:

However, a few minutes actual research on this story paints a different picture:-

QUOTE
Mike Dettinger, a climatologist and research hydrologist at the Scripps Institute of the U.S. Geological Survey, said Christy is picking and choosing data while misleading people about what climate change scientists are actually saying.

For one, he said, snow depth is not as good a measure of the winter weather conditions as water content and density.

The number of inches or feet of snow on the ground can mean a variety of things, he said, depending on if it is fluffy powder or compacted, wet snow.

Recent studies by Scripps scientists have found that over the last 50 years the southern Sierra snowpack has gotten larger while the northern Sierra pack has shrunk. Although they have predicted the overall state snowpack would decrease over time as a result of climate change, nobody has claimed that it has happened yet, Dettinger said.

What's significant in terms of global warming, he said, is the fact that the snowpack has declined over three quarters of the western United States, an area that includes Montana, Wyoming and New Mexico. Scripps researchers, in coordination with Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory scientists, have concluded that 60 percent of that downward trend is due to greenhouse gases.

"There is a popular conception that the snowpack has declined everywhere, but that is not what the science says," Dettinger said. "What we're saying broadly is that across western North America there have been declines in spring snowpack."
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(Source: https://www.sfgate.com/science/article/Study-Sierra-snowfall-consistent-over-130-years-3331631.php)

So, to quote Joss Ackland's character in Lethal Weapon 2, "Whiew is the dickhid naow?" :D
 
Nakosis

Nakosis

Non-Binary Physicalist
Premium Member
exchemist said:
(Source: https://www.sfgate.com/science/article/Study-Sierra-snowfall-consistent-over-130-years-3331631.php)

So, to quote Joss Ackland's character in Lethal Weapon 2, "Whiew is the dickhid naow?" :D
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Obviously no real good scientist would have been fooled by "Fluffy Snow".

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Subduction Zone

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
BSM1 said:
Sooo....how much warmer did it get in the Sierra Nevada's due to Global Warming?
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Not much, yet. But we can see a different pattern in snowfall. And it will only continue to change more and more from the old norm.

There are some "heat sinks" that slow warming. The biggest ones are the oceans. With cold water continually being forced to the surface it will take a while to warm them, but yet they have warmed enough to make some storms more intense and to change some weather patterns.


Think about it, there are numerous reasons to get off of fossils fuels besides AGW. AGW is only the one bane that we will have to live with for quite some time.
 
exchemist

exchemist

Veteran Member
BSM1 said:
Sooo....how much warmer did it get in the Sierra Nevada's due to Global Warming?
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I have no idea. However, Climate Change - because that's what it's called, you know - predicts a range of, well, changes, not simply "global warming".

Furthermore, snowfall is not particularly related to exactly how cold it is. It depends on how much snow, er, falls, you see. And climate change predicts more extreme weather. So some places may get more snowfall, until the point is reached at which it is warm enough to fall instead as rain.

(Acting stupid seems to be a popular rhetorical technique in America these days. It can work well, so long as your audience is too stupid to see through it.:D)
 
BSM1

BSM1

What? Me worry?
Subduction Zone said:
Not much, yet. But we can see a different pattern in snowfall. And it will only continue to change more and more from the old norm.

There are some "heat sinks" that slow warming. The biggest ones are the oceans. With cold water continually being forced to the surface it will take a while to warm them, but yet they have warmed enough to make some storms more intense and to change some weather patterns.


Think about it, there are numerous reasons to get off of fossils fuels besides AGW. AGW is only the one bane that we will have to live with for quite some time.
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exchemist said:
I have no idea. However, Climate Change - because that's what it's called, you know - predicts a range of, well, changes, not simply "global warming".

Furthermore, snowfall is not particularly related to exactly how cold it is. It depends on how much snow, er, falls, you see. And climate change predicts more extreme weather. So some places may get more snowfall, until the point is reached at which it is warm enough to fall instead as rain.

(Acting stupid seems to be a popular rhetorical technique in America these days. It can work well, so long as your audience is too stupid to see through it.:D)
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Well...that's certainly convenient....
 
David T

David T

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
Nakosis said:
Looks like another warmist talking point is about to go down the memory hole, assuming it’s not too clogged with ice.

Snowfall in the Sierra Nevada has remained consistent for 130 years, with no evidence that anything has changed as a result of climate change, according to a study released Tuesday.

The analysis of snowfall data in the Sierra going back to 1878 found no more or less snow overall – a result that, on the surface, appears to contradict aspects of recent climate change models.

John Christy, the Alabama state climatologist who authored the study, said the amount of snow in the mountains has not decreased in the past 50 years, a period when greenhouse gases were supposed to have increased the effects of global warming.


Of course, you realize what this means: John Christy and his loathsome cohorts are no longer scientists, if they ever were, and they must be destroyed.

The science is settled. The debate is over. No new facts and no takebacks. Not fair. Not fair!!
Global warming is melting the Sierra Nevada snow pack (in some alternate universe)
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Well there you go. I have always thought The noahs ark story was total bs.
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