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Free Natural Philosopher & Comparative Mythologist
Abstract: Can ancient Stories of Creation be compared to the Solar System formation? Are there similarities? I think so. Are there differences? I think that too. And even some very important and significant differences too.
What do you think?
§ 1) The Solar System.
The formation and evolution of the Solar System began about 4.57 billion years ago with the gravitational collapse of a small part of a giant molecular cloud. Most of the collapsing mass collected in the center, forming the Sun, while the rest flattened into a protoplanetary disk out of which planets, moons, asteroids, and other small Solar System bodies formed.
Me: This is pretty much like the Egyptian story.
Subsequent evolution
The planets were originally thought to have formed in or near their current orbits. This has been questioned during the last 20 years. Currently, many planetary scientists think that the Solar System might have looked very different after its initial formation: several objects at least as massive as Mercury were present in the inner Solar System, the outer Solar System was much more compact than it is now, and the Kuiper belt was much closer to the Sun.
Me: IMO the formation of our Solar System shall be connected to the formation of the Milky Way as it is an integrated part of the galactic rotation and formation.
§ 2) The Ogdoad Creation Myth.
In Egyptian mythology, the Ogdoad, are the 8 deities worshipped in Hermopolis. They were arranged in four male-female pairs. The Egyptians believed that before the world was formed, there was a watery mass of dark, directionless chaos.
The four deities pairs were Nun and Naunet (water), Amun and Amaunet (invisibility), Heh and Hauhet (infinity) and Kek and Kauket (darkness). The chaos existed without the light, and thus Kek and Kauket came to represent this darkness.
Me: Compared the scientific description, this is more specific by the *female-male* partitions which indicates *two opposite but complementary forces and qualities*. Note especially the *infinity* description which goes against the modern Big Bang idea of a beginning.
"Together the four paired concepts represent the primal fundamental state of the beginning, they are what always was. In the myth, however, their interaction ultimately proved to be unbalanced, resulting in the arising of a new entity. When the entity opened, it revealed Amun-Ra, the Fiery Light, inside. After a long interval of rest, Amun-Ra, together with the other gods, created all other things".
Me: Here, yet another time. the Egyptians thought of an eternal stage and not in a *Big Bang*. Otherwise, this telling looks very the similar as in modern science. It starts from a cloud and ends with a light, from where other objects are made in it´s surroundings.
"The original version of the myth has the LIGTH entity arising from the waters (Modern: *Cosmic Clouds*) after the interaction as a mound of soil which was deified as Goddess Hathor".
Me: This sentence makes all the difference between the modern and ancient cosmology. The ancient Egyptian Prime Mother Goddesses were directly identified with the Milky Way as illustrated below.
The Milky Way Goddess illustration with a band of stars vaulting over the Earth
A modern Star Atlas over the southern hemisphere with the Earth´s celestial pole marked. The inserted animated *galactic swirl* is located in the galactic center.
The *Fiery Light* in the Egyptian story, the Amun-Ra, represents the Central Light in the Milky Way, from where the *God* Amun-Ra creates *his daughter* the Mother Goddess i.e. the Milky Way contours on the southern hemisphere, which provides the natural symbolism of a *Mother Goddess* who gives *forms* to everything in the the Milky Way. Thie Milky Way center is also mythologically named in the beautiful term, *The Cosmic Womb*.
Note: In lots of books and in all encyclopedia´s, the Central Light in the Milky Way is falsely interpreted to be The Sun. This skewed perception is logical if the authors and scholars had no clues of the Milky Way connection in ancient Stories of Creation which ALL belongs to the Milky Way telling.
Milky Way Goddess, Gangavati, India
My conclusions.
1) The modern explanation of the Solar System formation is thought to take place via a gravitaional force which its *one* quality of attraction. The modern explanation of the Solar System is not connected logically to the Milky Way around which center it orbits.
2) The ancient explanation includes by it´s *male- female* definition, a complementary *two-way* formation of the very Milky Way and its objects. In modern terms, such a *two-way* force which makes the central Atum-Ra light in the Milky Way center, can only be the fundamental Electromagnetic Force = Light.
MY FAVORITE?
Is by far the ancient Story of Creation as it makes the logical Milky Way and Solar System connections. And it even provides a very correct description of how everyting in the Milky Way is created from *gas and dust* and formed in the Milky Way center from where stars and planets have left via the barred structure and out in the galactic arms.
This ancient formative motion is even confirmed by telescopes and it was a major surprice for modern science, which had to invent *dark matter* in order to patch and keep on holding onto the former assumptions of *orbital motion via gravity* which was contradicted.
Last but not least.
I prefer the ancient way of thinking in cyclical patterns decribed in eternal and infinite terms. There´s no unexplained Big Bang in ancient Stories of Creation, hence no linear thinking which is very unnatural.
What do you think?
§ 1) The Solar System.
The formation and evolution of the Solar System began about 4.57 billion years ago with the gravitational collapse of a small part of a giant molecular cloud. Most of the collapsing mass collected in the center, forming the Sun, while the rest flattened into a protoplanetary disk out of which planets, moons, asteroids, and other small Solar System bodies formed.
Me: This is pretty much like the Egyptian story.
Subsequent evolution
The planets were originally thought to have formed in or near their current orbits. This has been questioned during the last 20 years. Currently, many planetary scientists think that the Solar System might have looked very different after its initial formation: several objects at least as massive as Mercury were present in the inner Solar System, the outer Solar System was much more compact than it is now, and the Kuiper belt was much closer to the Sun.
Me: IMO the formation of our Solar System shall be connected to the formation of the Milky Way as it is an integrated part of the galactic rotation and formation.
§ 2) The Ogdoad Creation Myth.
In Egyptian mythology, the Ogdoad, are the 8 deities worshipped in Hermopolis. They were arranged in four male-female pairs. The Egyptians believed that before the world was formed, there was a watery mass of dark, directionless chaos.
The four deities pairs were Nun and Naunet (water), Amun and Amaunet (invisibility), Heh and Hauhet (infinity) and Kek and Kauket (darkness). The chaos existed without the light, and thus Kek and Kauket came to represent this darkness.
Me: Compared the scientific description, this is more specific by the *female-male* partitions which indicates *two opposite but complementary forces and qualities*. Note especially the *infinity* description which goes against the modern Big Bang idea of a beginning.
"Together the four paired concepts represent the primal fundamental state of the beginning, they are what always was. In the myth, however, their interaction ultimately proved to be unbalanced, resulting in the arising of a new entity. When the entity opened, it revealed Amun-Ra, the Fiery Light, inside. After a long interval of rest, Amun-Ra, together with the other gods, created all other things".
Me: Here, yet another time. the Egyptians thought of an eternal stage and not in a *Big Bang*. Otherwise, this telling looks very the similar as in modern science. It starts from a cloud and ends with a light, from where other objects are made in it´s surroundings.
"The original version of the myth has the LIGTH entity arising from the waters (Modern: *Cosmic Clouds*) after the interaction as a mound of soil which was deified as Goddess Hathor".
Me: This sentence makes all the difference between the modern and ancient cosmology. The ancient Egyptian Prime Mother Goddesses were directly identified with the Milky Way as illustrated below.
The Milky Way Goddess illustration with a band of stars vaulting over the Earth
A modern Star Atlas over the southern hemisphere with the Earth´s celestial pole marked. The inserted animated *galactic swirl* is located in the galactic center.
The *Fiery Light* in the Egyptian story, the Amun-Ra, represents the Central Light in the Milky Way, from where the *God* Amun-Ra creates *his daughter* the Mother Goddess i.e. the Milky Way contours on the southern hemisphere, which provides the natural symbolism of a *Mother Goddess* who gives *forms* to everything in the the Milky Way. Thie Milky Way center is also mythologically named in the beautiful term, *The Cosmic Womb*.
Note: In lots of books and in all encyclopedia´s, the Central Light in the Milky Way is falsely interpreted to be The Sun. This skewed perception is logical if the authors and scholars had no clues of the Milky Way connection in ancient Stories of Creation which ALL belongs to the Milky Way telling.
Milky Way Goddess, Gangavati, India
My conclusions.
1) The modern explanation of the Solar System formation is thought to take place via a gravitaional force which its *one* quality of attraction. The modern explanation of the Solar System is not connected logically to the Milky Way around which center it orbits.
2) The ancient explanation includes by it´s *male- female* definition, a complementary *two-way* formation of the very Milky Way and its objects. In modern terms, such a *two-way* force which makes the central Atum-Ra light in the Milky Way center, can only be the fundamental Electromagnetic Force = Light.
MY FAVORITE?
Is by far the ancient Story of Creation as it makes the logical Milky Way and Solar System connections. And it even provides a very correct description of how everyting in the Milky Way is created from *gas and dust* and formed in the Milky Way center from where stars and planets have left via the barred structure and out in the galactic arms.
This ancient formative motion is even confirmed by telescopes and it was a major surprice for modern science, which had to invent *dark matter* in order to patch and keep on holding onto the former assumptions of *orbital motion via gravity* which was contradicted.
Last but not least.
I prefer the ancient way of thinking in cyclical patterns decribed in eternal and infinite terms. There´s no unexplained Big Bang in ancient Stories of Creation, hence no linear thinking which is very unnatural.
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