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American children brought guns to school in the 1950's!

Jonathan Bailey

Jonathan Bailey

Well-Known Member
Sound shocking?

Number of American school shootings before Columbine?

ZERO

A priest was talking on EWTN Catholic radio this morning in Oklahoma.
The discussion was about these new-age mass shootings.

Anyway, when the priest's father was a boy, the children took their shotguns to school during hunting season.

They went pheasant hunting after class. He said America was totally under God then. There was a sense of being moral, godly, upright and wholesome.

Young people, these gunmen on CNN of today, are diseased souls totally away from God. It's not the guns, it's the want of being well-bred. It's social decay and bad homes for children. Technology is isolating us from being human. Electronic things are a total distraction. They have gotten our better half. It's introverting our young. America is a death culture. A smartphone or an arcade game is a psychological brick wall all around people. It's a closed shell, a bubble.


The priest on the radio said his public school had opening and closing prayers.
 
Jonathan Bailey

Jonathan Bailey

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Rival said:
Look at all the mass shootings in Europe because of lack of school pray...

Oh wait.
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But there were no school shootings before Columbine in America and all those children brought hunting rifles and shotguns to school in the 1950s. The guns were there. The young people were there.
What made the children with guns in the 1950's NOT go ballistic?
 
Rival

Rival

se Dex me saut.
Staff member
Premium Member
Jonathan Bailey said:
But there were no school shootings before Columbine in America and all those children brought hunting and rifle shotguns to school in the 1950s. The guns were there. The young people were there.
What made the children with guns in the 1950's NOT go ballistic?
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A more stable political climate? A different culture? Different set of values? The fact that most kids weren't actually taking guns to school on a daily basis?
 
Jonathan Bailey

Jonathan Bailey

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What caused all those American children with guns in the 1950's NOT to go ballistic at school if it weren't for godly morals back then?
 
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Jonathan Bailey

Jonathan Bailey

Well-Known Member
Rival said:
A more stable political climate? A different culture? Different set of values? The fact that most kids weren't actually taking guns to school on a daily basis?
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There are quite a few days during hunting seasons. I'm sure many more American children were taking guns to school in the 1950's for lawful reasons than bad people are taking guns to public places, schools included, today to do mass shoot-ups.
 
Howard Is

Howard Is

Lucky Mud
Jonathan Bailey said:
What caused all those American children with guns in the 1950's NOT to go ballistic at school [if] it weren't for godly morals back then?
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That’s s the way the argument gets framed.
I don’t think it is a question of some quality that has been lost. Something very toxic has been added.
 
Rival

Rival

se Dex me saut.
Staff member
Premium Member
Jonathan Bailey said:
What caused all those American children with guns in the 1950's NOT to go ballistic at school it weren't for godly morals back then?
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I have literally just answered you question. I guess you also believe those same godly morals were OK when justifying race segregation, paying women less, criminalising homosexuality and the fact that even today in some states it's legal to marry an animal.

Those godly morals?

School shootings happen for way, way more intricate reasons than you seem to think. They include politics, bullying, mental illness, brainwashing, fear, and all other manner of things. This is not the black and white issue you make it out to be, but you know what makes school shootings possible?

Guns.
 
Jonathan Bailey

Jonathan Bailey

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Howard Is said:
That’s s the way the argument gets framed.
I don’t think it is a question of some quality that has been lost. Something very toxic has been added.
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The toxic added thing might be all these modern gadgets? In the 1950's we did have telephones mounted on the wall, some with hand cranks, and many were still party lines back then requiring a local live human operator you knew well personally. You probably saw her in church every Sunday morning. We had games like cards and checkers were people had to socialize face to face. People weren't nearly as isolated. People aren't so connected these days as is all this electronic stuff. The cyber world has invaded and deteriorated the very fabric of the moral human community as do wool moths in a closet full of suits. We need a new kind of mothball to deter the social and psychological ruins caused by high-tech.
 
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Revoltingest

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
Jonathan Bailey said:
Sound shocking?

Number of American school shootings before Columbine?

ZERO

A priest was talking on EWTN Catholic radio this morning in Oklahoma.
The discussion was about these new-age mass shootings.

Anyway, when the priest's father was a boy, the children took their shotguns to school during hunting season.

They went pheasant hunting after class. He said America was totally under God then. There was a sense of being moral, godly, upright and wholesome.

Young people, these gunmen on CNN of today, are diseased souls totally away from God. It's not the guns, it's the want of being well-bred. It's social decay and bad homes for children. Technology is isolating us from being human. Electronic things are a total distraction. They have gotten our better half. It's introverting our young. America is a death culture. A smartphone or an arcade game is a psychological brick wall all around people. It's a closed shell, a bubble.


The priest on the radio said his public school had opening and closing prayers.
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We brought guns to public school in the 70s.
Our rifle team competed with teams from other schools.
 
Windwalker

Windwalker

Veteran Member
Premium Member
Jonathan Bailey said:
Young people, these gunmen on CNN of today, are diseased souls totally away from God. It's not the guns, it's the want of being well-bred.
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Great. Then they shouldn't have guns. Fix the social problems first, and when we're all healthy again, then it's safe for us to have guns again. Right? Until then however, they shouldn't have guns. For us to imagine that's okay, is highly irresponsible on our part.

I like your plan. Take the guns away from them, help them find God, and then once they have, let them have guns again when they can be good people with guns, as opposed to bad people with guns.You can call it the "Godly Gun Control Initiative". Great idea. "Without God in your life, you shouldn't have a gun" can be the slogan for the moment. Let's make that happen today.
 
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Howard Is

Howard Is

Lucky Mud
Jonathan Bailey said:
People weren't nearly as isolated.
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That is true. Psychoelectronic dopamine addiction and related dissociation may be what future history books list as a major cause of social breakdown.
In Australia, the average number of ‘close personal friends’ has dropped from 6.4 in 2005 to 3.9 now. That is since Facebook etc.
85% of the population admit to suffering from loneliness.

I don’t see the situation as purely a gun control issue by any means, although that situation seems totally out of control and is gasoline on the fire.
 
sooda

sooda

Veteran Member
Jonathan Bailey said:
Sound shocking?

Number of American school shootings before Columbine?

ZERO

A priest was talking on EWTN Catholic radio this morning in Oklahoma.
The discussion was about these new-age mass shootings.

Anyway, when the priest's father was a boy, the children took their shotguns to school during hunting season.

They went pheasant hunting after class. He said America was totally under God then. There was a sense of being moral, godly, upright and wholesome.

Young people, these gunmen on CNN of today, are diseased souls totally away from God. It's not the guns, it's the want of being well-bred. It's social decay and bad homes for children. Technology is isolating us from being human. Electronic things are a total distraction. They have gotten our better half. It's introverting our young. America is a death culture. A smartphone or an arcade game is a psychological brick wall all around people. It's a closed shell, a bubble.


The priest on the radio said his public school had opening and closing prayers.
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America had domestic abuse and drunkenness in the 1950s.
 
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