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Featured Amen and Awomen?!

Discussion in 'General Religious Debates' started by questfortruth, Jan 10, 2021.

  1. Estro Felino

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    Isn't this the sign that Feminism has slightly got out of hand...in the US?
    ;)
     
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  2. Estro Felino

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    btw...all Christians say the word Amen. We Italians too.
    I thought it was a Hebrew word that had nothing to do with 'males'.
    We pronounce it with the A stressed.
     
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    ...you know...episodes like this makes me incredibly proud of being a heterosexual woman who adores males.
    :p
     
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    Males?
    Those things are awful.
     
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    UN women. Guys...are they serious? To begin with there are businesswoman...and congresswoman. It is English.

    Feminism.jpg
     
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    :facepalm:

    Wow.
     
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    "Landlord" & "owner" have different, albeit overlapping meanings
    in real estate. As a fee manager, I was the landlord of a property,
    but not the owner. The owner, was not the landlord, but was my
    client.
    If people want to change the language to make it more PC,
    they should first understand what the Heck they're doing.
    And then, question whether the change is useful or mere
    lamely superficial.
     
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  8. Estro Felino

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    And these are notions of Private Law. Juridic concepts.
    :)
     
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    ...or "businessman" and "representative" are not the same thing in Commercial Law.

    Representative is the agent, who acts on the principal's behalf. And the principal is usually (but not always) the proprietor of a firm, an entrepreneur.
     
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    It's the language used in the industry.
    And it comports with what I've seen in court.
     
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    Those terms appear to apply only in a limited sense
    in governmental discourse. Seems a really dumb
    change because of the loss of meaning.

    I propose that we recognize that "man" when part
    of another word, eg, "mankind", "human", doesn't
    refer to gender at all. Thus "businessman" would
    be an acceptable gender neutral term.

    Note that in the 23rd century, both male & female
    officers are called "sir".
    What's the origin of referring to female superior officers as "sir"?
    Note also that "female" has the text, "male",
    embedded, yet it doesn't denote male gender.
     
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    This is the second time you've said this. IQ scores of these people (which you don't even know, by the way, so how do you know they are "high?") has as much to do with what happened as the word "men" has to do with "Amen." I am sorry, but you are just shooting yourself in the foot here. This whole thread is now dumber.
     
  13. Estro Felino

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    Yes...what I meant is that UN women probably doesn't know how important it is to distinguish between landlord and owner, juridically speaking.
    Proprietas and Possessio in Roman Law.
     
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    Reasons English Needs Gender Neutral Singular Pronouns, Exhibit #3847273.
     
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    Why did you choose to open the thread with an outright lie? Isn't baring false witness a sin?
     
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    I am in support of such a pronoun and we already have many from which to choose. Just seems to be hard for it to catch on and even worse when some folks flip out over it even existing, when it seems logical to have one.
     
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    Yes, adoption seems to be the hardest part. I find it awkward using "they" for non-binary folks who prefer that, but it's just a matter of getting used to it, I think.

    In the meantime, striving for language that's gender neutral when appropriate seems pretty reasonable, e.g. using "person" instead of "man."
     
  18. Estro Felino

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    Ok...but the point is another one.
    We saw a Christian minister mispronounce a sacred word Amen, and because of this war on the word man, male...for what they represent.

    It is an important word.
     
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    Then maybe the OP should have said anything about that point rather than spouting lies and generic insults. If you consider the actual topic so important, I would have thought you'd find such a flawed and trashy opening post as frustrating as I did.
     
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    Um...
    What does anything about the word amen have to do with:
     
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