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Am I sexist ?

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by michel, Feb 16, 2006.

  1. michel

    michel Administrator Emeritus
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    Am I being sexist, by being more emotional because two police women have been shot recently ?
    Had they been men, of course it would have affected me. Being women though, it has had a much greater effect.

    I have tried to analise the rationale behind it, and it is not because I think women are in any way 'more fragile' or 'not as good as men'. It is simply that I have a higher regard for women than for men. Why ? I haven't a clue.


    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/nottinghamshire/4717800.stm

    Shot Pc stable after more surgery

    [​IMG] Rachael Bown was shot in the abdomen below her body armour

    An officer who was shot in the stomach while investigating a burglary has undergone surgery for a complication after her condition worsened.

    Pc Rachael Bown, 23, was shot in the abdomen below her body armour shortly before midnight on Monday.

    Staff at the Queen's Medical Centre said her condition was stable after undergoing surgery for a second time.

    Chief Constable of Nottinghamshire Police Steve Green has expressed his concern for the officer.

    He said: "It is a very worrying time for everyone. Our thoughts and prayers are with Rachael and her family."

    [​IMG] When she opened her eyes the first thing she said was 'sorry dad, I'm going to get the sack'


    Martin Bown

    The probationary officer first underwent emergency surgery at the city's Queen's Medical Centre in the early hours of Tuesday.

    She had regained consciousness and had been chatting with family in hospital.

    Pc Bown was on duty with an experienced male officer when she was shot about half a mile from where the burglary took place in Lenton.

    No-one has been arrested and the police investigation continues.

    On Wednesday, her parents, Martin and Jan Bown, said their daughter's first thoughts when she awoke from surgery was that she had let her colleagues down.

    'Caring and generous'

    Mr Bown, 44, said: "When she opened her eyes the first thing she said was 'sorry dad, I'm going to get the sack'.

    "That's the sort of girl she is, she is always thinking of others and would hate to think she'd let anyone down."

    Her parents described the last two days as a living nightmare.

    Mr Bown said: "It was our worst fears come true.

    "It was the dreaded knock on the door in the middle of the night. My first thought was she'd been in a road accident, I never dreamed for a second she had been shot."

    Appeal for information

    Her parents have kept a vigil at the hospital along with their two other daughters Gemma, 21, and Sarah 14.

    "We've also been overwhelmed by the number of messages of support from Rachael's colleagues and members of the public," said Mr Bown.

    "She is aware that so many people have been thinking of her and she wants us to thank everyone for their kind words and thoughts."

    Pc Bown, who joined Nottinghamshire police in March 2004, grew up in the city and went to Nottingham Trent University. Her mother said: "Rachael is a beautiful girl, she is so kind, caring and generous. She would do anything for you. Now, we just want her to get better and bring her home." Her parents have also appealed for anyone with information about the gunman who shot Rachael to come forward.

     
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  2. jeffrey

    jeffrey †ßig Dog†

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    I feel the same. Just as a woman getting beat up angers me more than a man getting beaten up. I think that we are conditioned through life to protect women. So when something like this happens, we react more strongly. Sexist, no. Caring, yes. :)
     
  3. Mike182

    Mike182 Flaming Queer

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    because our society tends to view women and children as innocents, it is a big thing when an innocent is violated
     
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  4. Aqualung

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    Yes, you are.
     
  5. Evenstar

    Evenstar The Wicked Christian

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    I read this too Michel, its very sad..
    Really makes me sit and think about the world we live in.
     
  6. Joe bag of doughnuts

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    Michel, if you are then so am I. That was the way I was raised. Men did their best to protect women. A good women is a blessing to a man and worthy of his protection. Don't worry about feeling the way you do. It's better than not giving a dam about anyone.
     
  7. Pussyfoot Mouse

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    There's nothing wrong with being sensitive Michel, but sexist, I don't think you are. :kissbette
     
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  8. jeffrey

    jeffrey †ßig Dog†

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    I think women are most likely just as disturbed about it as men. So does that make most women sexist too? ;)
     
  9. Jaiket

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    I think I agree with this one. Why should you care anymore about a woman you don't know than a man you don't know?
     
  10. dawny0826

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    Michel, when I first read the title of your thread...I thought you asked..."Am I sexiest?"

    No, you're not sexist. You're caring.
     
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  11. jeffrey

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    Can you honestly say you feel no different when a man gets shot and killed and a woman gets shot and killed?
    Can you honestly say you feel no different when a women gets beaten and a man gets beaten? ​
    Can you honestly say you feel no different when a women gets raped then when a man gets raped?
     
  12. Aqualung

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    Just because he can "honestly say it" does that mean he's not sexist? If the only reason you feel differently about two otherwise equal things is because of sex, then you are sexist.
     
  13. Druidus

    Druidus Keeper of the Grove

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    I agree.

    It is a sexist behaviour. Just because it is common doesn't make it any less of a sexist behaviour. I, for one, find it highly annoying in my friend, who is unwilling to treat females as people; but rather treats them as objects requiring protection.
     
  14. pdoel

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    I don't think you are sexist at all. Sometimes, we just become accustomed to certain things. For instance, I can watch movie after movie with fight scenes, people falling off buildings, people getting shot, doesn't bother me at all. But then you see a movie where a puppy is run over and I'm near tears.

    Everytime you turn on the TV there are stories about cops getting shot, people getting shot, etc. Sometimes, there's just a trigger that affects us more. Doesn't make you sexist in the least. Just means something pushed your button a bit.

    I'm sure if the cops had been men, and they had done a little piece about the families they had left behind, and you saw the guy had some children, you'd have been just as sad as were over these women.
     
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  15. kreeden

    kreeden Virus of the Mind

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    Hmmm ? I would have to say that at base valves , yes it is sexist to have any difference of opinion based upon sex . However , I think that is not a bad thing . There are natural differences between the sexes , and differences are important too . As long as they are real differences and not just based on dias opinion .
     
  16. Buttercup

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    I tend to think like this as well.

    But, I wonder, would you men feel the same if the policewoman was old? Do you feel bad for her because she is a young cop? Would you have started the thread if the woman who was shot was 60 instead of 24? Just asking....don't kill me now! :)
     
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  17. jeffrey

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    The word sexist implies discrimination against a certain sex. Just because you feel more compassion towards a woman does not mean your discriminating against her. Just as I feel compassion towards the GBLT or blacks, does not mean I'm discriminating. ;)
     
  18. pdoel

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    Hmmm. Now I must ask, are you sexist? Why are you lumping all men into one category? Why are you making the assumption that all men would only feel sorry for a young woman and not an old woman? Why do you assume all men have the same feelings?
     
  19. Buttercup

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    Firstly, read my post again. I am asking, not assuming.

    And, ( here come the rocks, Chimp quickly ducks) I think most women tend to be less sexist than men. For example, often (not always) men tend to let daughters get away with more misbehavior than sons. Women tend to treat the sons & daughters more equally as far as discipline.
     
  20. jeffrey

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    So, buttercup, from the op's statement. how is he discriminating because be shows compassion?
     
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