Alt-Right promises violence if Trump asks for it

[Shadow Wolf]

I hope you are right though I understand USA has a long history of vote dishonesty.

After many years of accusations, when someone really pushed the issue there was nothing found. Id say that's bwing able to handle and run an election.

 

[Twilight Hue]

Validated? Hardly. Besides, it was Bernie who wanted to introduce socialism, a concept about which most Americans are ignorant, and Biden is actually a decent Democrat.

I heard of his reputation as a moderate in the past. A blue dog which I like to see. However with his choice with Harris, that has put in considerable doubt if he is the same man now.

I'm taking a wait and see approach.

 

[Audie]

After many years of accusations, when someone really pushed the issue there was nothing found. Id say that's bwing able to handle and run an election.

Nothing found isn't so, BUT, the votes still are being counted.

"Handle an election" is, in the event, a matter of degree.

The USA has a deep history of rigged elections,
for all that one of our heroes of the Empire wishes to say otherwise.

How about "run better"? There is plenty of room for improvement. Was at Bush v Gore,
Is still.

 

[Audie]

I heard of his reputation as a moderate in the past. A blue dog which I like to see. However with his choice with Harris, that has put in considerable doubt if he is the same man now.

I'm taking a wait and see approach.

Veers are traditionally given the back seat.
See Roosevelt and Truman!

Harris was chosen just because she was the
Only woman in America who checked every PC
box.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

Only woman in America who checked every PC
box.

Sure about thatm

Nothing found isn't so, BUT, the votes still are being counted.

"Handle an election" is, in the event, a matter of degree.

The USA has a deep history of rigged elections,
for all that one of our heroes of the Empire wishes to say otherwise.

How about "run better"? There is plenty of room for improvement. Was at Bush v Gore,
Is still.

One example doesn't make a flawed election. A less than perfect system doesn't mean we have to figure this out. This year well demonstrates we are very compitent at running an election.

 

[Audie]

Sure about thatm

One example doesn't make a flawed election. A less than perfect system doesn't mean we have to figure this out. This year well demonstrates we are very compitent at running an election.

One example?.

Can we just settle on the fact that rigged elections have plagued American democracy,
from the first, and it has hardly been perfected as of this election?

 

[Shadow Wolf]

One example?.

Yes, you have gave just one example of a problem.

Can we just settle on the fact that rigged elections have plagued American democracy,
from the first, and it has hardly been perfected as of this election?

No, because as I've said there have charges for many elections now, but consistently nothing more than isolated incidents that are incapable of swinging the election are found. It hasn't always been perfect, but all these bloodhounds fiending for examples of fraud keep turning up empty handed.
Really, the elections aren't the problem. It's efforts by Republicans to suppress voters. Like the Supreme Court ruling Pennsylvania gets a few days after the election to count ballots, and despite that Trump still tried to have those votes not counted.

 

[Audie]

Yes, you have gave just one example of a problem.

No, because as I've said there have charges for many elections now, but consistently nothing more than isolated incidents that are incapable of swinging the election are found. It hasn't always been perfect, but all these bloodhounds fiending for examples of fraud keep turning up empty handed.
Really, the elections aren't the problem. It's efforts by Republicans to suppress voters. Like the Supreme Court ruling Pennsylvania gets a few days after the election to count ballots, and despite that Trump still tried to have those votes not counted.

I have to list every problem for them to exist?

You've yet to agree that elections have been rigged since the beginning. Local and national.
Rigged against women and minorities from day one. Tammany Hall. Times change,, different 2ays to rig.

Not that every pres was illegit; maybe none were, for all that both Bush and Trump were
loudly called that.

As for the present situation, from over here in Hong Kong it sure looks as if you Americans can't get your act together.

There ought to be a way to just do an election that nobody can dispute, but you refuse to
do what it takes-like, say, voter ID!

Meantime, half the country cries foul the other crimes fair, just like Bush v Gore but the other
way around.

 

[fantome profane]

You set a mighty low bar for heroism.

We know that partisanship is off the scale when
merely voting for one's favored candidate is "heroic".

 

[Revoltingest]

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Now those guys play some real heroes.

 

[Callisto]

I would not object to a demonstration of violence by the alt-right militias.

I also would not object to a violent response by the military in which a dozen or so militia "men" were killed.



One of their big gripes seems to be about pedophiles. Four years ago they promoted a conspiracy that Clinton and Podesta were running a pedophile ring out of the basement of a non-descript pizza parlor. A pizza parlor that doesn't even have a basement.

This year it's about the pedophiles in the deep state (whatever that is).

Maybe a lot of these right-wing militia types were touched by their good scoutmasters or their good priests/pastors or their good YMCA instructors.

Or, just like Trump, they project their own deplorable behaviors on to others.

 

[Callisto]

I hope Trump acknowledges the election results soon. It'd be best for the country.

Trump does not give a toss about the country. And his enablers have their heads too far up his arse to remind him he should be doing something... like addressing the pandemic or may be stop wasting the courts' time with frivolous litigation when what he should be worried about is what all possible charges he's going to face on the state level after Jan. 20th.

 

[Callisto]

I'll be surprised if he even goes to the inauguration since it won't be all about him.

He won't show, it still sticks in his craw that his inauguration was sparsely attended. You know the attendance for Biden's will rival Queen's performance at LiveAid (which had literally a billion people watching remotely worldwide). Trump'll be home in his skivvies, greasy Big Mac fingers clumsily unleashing raving tweets and calling Fox News to whine.

 

[Callisto]

One example?.

Can we just settle on the fact that rigged elections have plagued American democracy,
from the first, and it has hardly been perfected as of this election?

Examples?

 

[Valjean]

No, it isn't. Liberals and leftists have authoritarian tendencies at times. The current cancel and censorship culture is s leftist/progressive phenomenon. I notice that it tends to go back and forth in America as to which side is pushing for more restrictions in expression. It used to be the religious right and now it's the PC SJW left.

Yes, liberals can have leftist tendencies; the Weathermen of the '70s, for example; but "cancel culture?"

Cancel culture is a youth dominated, online phenomenon practiced largely by those who find it easier to criticize than correct. It's not a 'progressive phenomenon.' It's a right-wing trait -- intolerance -- manifesting in a largely liberal demographic -- though Donald Trump seems to be its most active practitioner.
“That’s not activism, That’s not bringing about change. If all you’re doing is casting stones, you’re probably not going to get that far. That’s easy to do.” -- Barack Obama.

Both sides advocate 'restrictions', but the Right promotes symbolic values and restrictions, based on foundations like ingroup loyalty/nationalism, authority, and sanctity.“ The Right promotes conventionalism, regardless of harm, while the left tends to promote restrictions on activities that cause actual individual, social or environmental harm, though, admittedly, there's a recent tendancy for vindictive swiping at 'disloyal' symbols.

Denigrating 'social justice warriors? What's wrong with social justice warriors? Don't we honor Frederick Douglas, Susan B Anthony, Martin Luther King, Gandhi, &al?
This is another twitterstorm from the Right trying to question the motives of those promoting values most of us agree with.
Social justice warrior - Wikipedia

 

[Valjean]

I prefer to think about the more that 78 million incredibly heroic individuals who saved the world from the tyranny pestilence that has infected it over the last four years.

Huh?

 

[Valjean]

One example?.

Can we just settle on the fact that rigged elections have plagued American democracy,
from the first, and it has hardly been perfected as of this election?

The Right has been rigging elections for decades -- gerrymandering, voting machine shenanigans, polling place changes, numbers and locations; registration restrictions, ID restrictions, misinformation, caging, crosscheck, &al. Just Google.
The "rigging" has all been aimed at voter suppression, not fraud.

Wasn't there a blizzard of new election legislation after the Voting Rights Act was modified in 2013? How much of it increased voter participation?
The leopard hadn't changed its spots. In 2013 the supreme court gutted voting rights – how has it changed the US?

 

[Audie]

The Right has been rigging elections for decades -- gerrymandering, voting machine shenanigans, polling place changes, numbers and locations; registration restrictions, ID restrictions, misinformation, caging, crosscheck, &al. Just Google.
The "rigging" has all been aimed at voter suppression, not fraud.

Wasn't there a blizzard of new election legislation after the Voting Rights Act was modified in 2013? How much of it increased voter participation?
The leopard hadn't changed its spots. In 2013 the supreme court gutted voting rights – how has it changed the US?

What is so sad is the way you Americans have all fallen for your chosen teams' mottos-four legs good, two legs bad.

 

[Valjean]

Examples?

 

[Audie]

Examples?

I have to teach you Americans your own history?
If that's all you guys care, I don't know why I should.

There's a great swarm of smart ambitious people on this side of the puddle will be glad to push you guys off your shake pedistal.