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Alt-Right promises violence if Trump asks for it

Nakosis

Non-Binary Physicalist
Premium Member
Time will tell once the electorate goes in to vote in our next president. ;0]

The reason the radical right is acting like that is the validated fear of socialist political rule from the left.

Is violence warranted should Biden win? I say no. Not yet at least in light that I don't think we are at that particular flashpoint, but im fairly certain we are headed down that road if things don't change for the better soon.

I suspect it is more about the media crowning themselves opinion leaders.
 

QuestioningMind

Well-Known Member
I would not object to a demonstration of violence by the alt-right militias.

I also would not object to a violent response by the military in which a dozen or so militia "men" were killed.



One of their big gripes seems to be about pedophiles. Four years ago they promoted a conspiracy that Clinton and Podesta were running a pedophile ring out of the basement of a non-descript pizza parlor. A pizza parlor that doesn't even have a basement.

This year it's about the pedophiles in the deep state (whatever that is).

Maybe a lot of these right-wing militia types were touched by their good scoutmasters or their good priests/pastors or their good YMCA instructors.

This is nothing new. I remember hearing about how President Ford was a member of this vast pedophile ring back in the 70's... also Reagan, Bush I, Clinton, Bush II, and Obama. It didn't used to be about left and right, just about the DEEP STATE. And of course every time I've heard it talked about they claim that the indisputable EVIDENCE for the claims is ALWAYS just days or weeks away from being released. Used to just be a extremist fringe thing that you could laugh about. Thanks to the Internet and a frighteningly large percentage of truly ignorant individuals it's become a mainstream theory with conservatives.
 

Windwalker

Veteran Member
Premium Member
Of course. But until Americans get their act together and gpfigure out how to have a election, nothing is really solved.
Not sure what you mean. We just had a very well-run, secure, and non-fraudulent election. Biden won it. T**** is just making garbage up that isn't sticking, just because he's a big baby narcissist. The election worked as designed. T**** lost.

We do need to get rid of the electoral college however.... losing by 5 million votes, which is how badly T**** lost by, should be the sole deciding factor, IMO.
 

QuestioningMind

Well-Known Member
Time will tell once the electorate goes in to vote in our next president. ;0]

The reason the radical right is acting like that is the validated fear of socialist political rule from the left.

Is violence warranted should Biden win? I say no. Not yet at least in light that I don't think we are at that particular flashpoint, but im fairly certain we are headed down that road if things don't change for the better soon.

The reason the radical right is acting like that is the validated fear of socialist political rule from the left.

Valid fear of what? That we'll adopt universal healthcare and turn into a horrible place like Canada? That Jeff Bezos might only make a hundred million dollars next year instead of a billion? That people who have worked 40-50 years of their life might actually be guaranteed a decent retirement?
 

Audie

Veteran Member
Not sure what you mean. We just had a very well-run, secure, and non-fraudulent election. Biden won it. T**** is just making garbage up that isn't sticking, just because he's a big baby narcissist. The election worked as designed. T**** lost.

We do need to get rid of the electoral college however.... losing by 5 million votes, which is how badly T**** lost by, should be the sole deciding factor, IMO.

Is this sarcasm?
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
I speculate that promising violence is histrionics.
It's easy to say it, but actually committing it as part of
a cold plan can give one pause. However, violence
could break out if tempers flare during demonstrations.
I give 80% odds that the alt right will fizzle, not sizzle.
 
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Valjean

Veteran Member
Premium Member
Time will tell once the electorate goes in to vote in our next president. ;0]

The reason the radical right is acting like that is the validated fear of socialist political rule from the left.
1. How is this a validated fear? Can you link to some validated source?
2. The Left? Which left -- the Greens? Yeah, they're a scary bunch. :rolleyes:
Who are these leftists?
3.Socialist political rule? Like FDR? Like Scandinavia? :eek:

What do you imagine "Socialist political rule" would entail, Twilight?

The Democrat's aren't Left. They don't even represent the working class anymore -- which is one reason this class feels abandoned and is embracing the authoritarian Right, which is pandering to them with it's depiction of government as the enemy.
The Republican's have weaponized "Socialist." They've made it a scary word, conjuring up vague images of a repressive, Soviet-style, totalitarian state.

Today's Democratic mainstream is, in many ways, politically Right of both the Nixon and Reagan administrations. The platform of the actual mainstream Left, such as Sanders' "Democratic Socialists," pretty much exactly matches what surveys have found to be the views of the majority of Americans.
 
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Valjean

Veteran Member
Premium Member
I hope Trump acknowledges the election results soon. It'd be best for the country.
Concession is merely a polite formality. It doesn't matter if Trump acknowledges his loss. He's out, Biden's in. That's all she wrote.
 

Valjean

Veteran Member
Premium Member
Which leftist speaks against "blm" and "antifa"?
You know, the ones who peacefully torched and looted across the country while being praised
for their summer of love?
I do -- if they resort to needless hooliganism. Violence and vandalism harm their purported cause and feed into Right-wing propaganda.
 

Valjean

Veteran Member
Premium Member
Both the far-right and far-left are violent.
True, but the far Right is better at it. The Left... their heart just isn't in it. It's not natural for them.

"Far Left" thugs are a rare breed, and a lot of the violence attributed to them I'd attributed to Black Bloc hooligans, who are just as RWA as the Fascists.

Right-Wing Authoritarian triad:
  1. Authoritarian submission — a high degree of submissiveness to the authorities who are perceived to be established and legitimate in the society in which one lives.
  2. Authoritarian aggression — a general aggressiveness directed against deviants, outgroups and other people that are perceived to be targets according to established authorities.
  3. Conventionalism — a high degree of adherence to the traditions and social norms that are perceived to be endorsed by society and its established authorities and a belief that others in one's society should also be required to adhere to these norms.
Violence is the natural reaction of the Right, not the Left.
 

Valjean

Veteran Member
Premium Member
The left has been deeply involved in compulsory policy the past several decades and there's no sign of letting up. When was the last time incentive based legislation was enacted? The bottle law?
The Left has been repressed, and it's legislative policies largely blocked, for several decades. The whole country's moved Right.
 
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