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Featured All 3 Abrahamic Religions Have It Wrong Based on the Tanakh

Discussion in 'General Religious Debates' started by wizanda, Nov 7, 2018.

  1. wizanda

    wizanda One Accepts All Religious Texts
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    If we just read the Tanakh without biases from the varied Abrahamic religious presuppositions, the text can be seen that Yeshua is prophesied to be the flesh of David, with the spirit of the Lord placed within him.

    Many get confused with this, as they no longer accept the Divine Council we find in Psalms 82:1, due to bad language comprehension on EL (H410) and Eloh (H433 + H430).

    The God Most High (EL Elyon) is above the Divine Council of Elohim (Deuteronomy 32:7-9), and is the Source of Reality like a CPU in a simulated reality, manifesting it at a quantum level, where it is beyond form.

    El (God) is the Source, and Eloh is a being made manifest by El (Isaiah 46:9); adding 'h' meant God breathed, like Abram became Abraham, and Sara became Sarah when blessed by God.

    The Biblical authors recognized these differences, and even prophesied that mankind would get confused by this structuring due to other religious cultures; even tho it is the same as the Dharmic comprehension.

    Yah + Havah (Lord + To Be - H3050 + H1933) means similar to Brahma (To Be), and Brahma's Source (Father) is Brahman (God Most High - El Elyon).

    The Lord said he would become our salvation (Yeshua) by the prophets (Exodus 15:2, Psalms 118:14-21, Isaiah 12:2), and when we read all of Psalms 118, we're not to put our trust in the Son of Man; yet in the one who made the Chief-Corner Stone.

    The naming of Yeshua is a continued symbolic naming that goes back to Moses calling Hosea son of Nun, Yehoshua son of Nun... Then we see Yehoshua son of Yehozadek leading the people back after the Babylonian Exile... Thus Yehoshua son of Yoseph is a natural continuation of the naming, that he will be the one who leads us back into the promised land.

    Psalms 89:19-21 is paraphrased in Isaiah 52:13-14, where there is an additional yod on the word blemished in the Dead Sea Scrolls making it 'I anointed'.
    Psalms 89:19-21 Then you spoke in vision to your saints, and said, “I have given strength to the warrior. I have exalted a young man from the people. (20) I have found David, my servant. I have anointed him with my holy oil, (21) with whom my hand shall be established. My arm will also strengthen him.

    Isaiah 52:13-14 Behold, my servant will deal wisely. He will be exalted and lifted up, and will be very high. Just as many were astonished by him, for I anointed him more than others appearance, and his form more than a son of man.


    Isaiah 52:10 is the start of the Isaiah 53 passage, as it starts with the Arm of the Lord, which we find repeated in Isaiah 53:1, which then identifies it as a header.

    At the end of Isaiah 52:10 we find that we will see 'Yeshuat Eloheinu', which is 'the Salvation of our Lord'; this is also in Psalms 98:3, where the Gentiles see the Right Arm of the Lord interacting with mankind.

    Thus the symbolism implies that the spirit of the Lord is put in the vessel of David's flesh, to fulfill what we see in Isaiah 53; so that the Lord could make intercession, as he saw no man who could (Isaiah 59:16, Isaiah 53:6, Isaiah 53:12).

    Therefore Yeh-oshua (Lord + To Save - H3050 + H3467) being the Son of the God Most High in the Synoptic Gospels (Luke 1:32), fits with what was prophesied in the Tanakh.

    In my opinion. :innocent:
     
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  2. Tumah

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    When everyone else is complaining that you don't know a word of Hebrew and would not really qualify to determine whether others have bad language comprehension skills, I'll stick up for you! I'll tell them that you don't need Hebrew language skills because you've been having visions since you were a child! They'll definitely take you seriously when they hear that!
     
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    I think we should, of course, try to avoid bias. I think that there is a difference between bias and the tradition that the writing comes with. There is value in trying to look at it apart from the tradition and also from other perspectives, but it can't be evaluated in the total absence of its traditions. We getting into Bible Codes territory and alien energy, that sort of thing. I can evaluate the Torah on the basis that its gifted to us by a superior off planet alien race, but I shouldn't take that as the definitive origin. I might be able to benefit from it, notice some things I didn't, maybe sharpen my mental skills. At the same time I know very well it doesn't claim to come from another planet, so to assume so just to escape bias may be a little too much.
     
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    What is your opinion about my aliens idea? If you found out the Torah was given to Moses by space aliens would you still choose it as your way to live?
     
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    Everything posted can be assessed using Esword Bible software; spent over 14 years researching it that way, just haven't bothered learning an ancient language that is no longer spoken the same.
    Me being an Arch-Angel sent from Heaven with the name exegesis (Zand), doesn't need bringing into an objective debate built on the data accessible to everyone.

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    Assessing historical contexts within the authors own scope, to see what contexts they might have applied to it is logical - as they've been said to be divinely inspired; not what we've applied to it, else this is eisegesis, and illogical - as humans are generally dumber in comparison.

    In my opinion.
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    No, I don't think so. Why work so hard for nothing?
     
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    Hey, it works for me! The Hindu gods, especially the blue ones are aliens who zipped around in their flying vimanas (space craft) and hurled their Brahmāstras (particle beam, nuclear and laser weapons) at each other.

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  9. Tumah

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    Yeah! We can tell!

    Well, I think it will be helpful, because it will add a certain perspective that would otherwise make it difficult to understand why someone who has basically no familiarity with a language is claiming to have greater understanding of a text written in that language, than the people who, you know, know the language.
     
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    This is an interesting question. I recall you mentioned a man who became a Haredi bloke and then eventually became an atheist, but kept the lifestyle. Sometimes it brings meaning of itself, just giving one something to do, some ritual to follow, which pretty much all humans do. I'm pretty certain that even if, G-d forbid, I ever became an atheist, I'd still be washing my hands the way I do; right now doing that reminds me of HaShem, but it's not hard to imagine a mind putting a different spin on that after an opinion change.

    Maybe best for another thread though.
     
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    Urban Dictionary: Carniphobia
     
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    So should we include that Sandalphon, Sananda, Skanda, Ananda, Ahura Mazda, Zion Elohim (Psalms 146:10, Psalms 147:12, Isaiah 52:7) are all versions of my name; which have subconsciously known since about 4 years old...

    Therefore it is possible the person explaining these comprehensions, is the fulfillment of its prophecies; yet doesn't that over complicate this specific topic?

    In my opinion. :innocent:
     
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    Yes, we'll definitely make sure to include those things!
     
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    No again. Unless your name means 'semen'.

    Skanda is derived from skanḍr-, which means to "spill, ooze, leap, attack".[18] This root is derived from the legend of his unusual birth. The legend, translates Lochtefeld, states "Shiva and Parvati are disturbed while making love, and Shiva inadvertently spills his semen on the ground".[8] This semen incubates in River Ganges, preserved by the heat of god Agni, and this fetus is born as baby Kartikeya on the banks of Ganges. The "spill" epithet leads to the name Skanda.[8][18] Kartikeya - Wikipedia
     
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    Right so now do you get the topic, due to having that additional data?...

    And are willing to be respectful like you're speaking with the Messiah explaining this for our people before the Tribulation?

    Since last time you walked off from this topic, since you still didn't get this.

    In my opinion. :innocent:
     
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    How could someone like me have anything more to add to what you have already said?
    I'm only here to support you, because we go back so long.
     
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    wizanda One Accepts All Religious Texts
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    Words have specific meanings; Anda is the Egg at the beginning of reality, and testicles...

    These are metaphors, so yes the name can mean that, and the name Skanda has represented an ever youthful warrior son of Shiva.

    There is also additional detail to the OP, that Skanda catches out the demons of Salvation (Tarakasura) by his Yantra, which is in the form of the star of David.

    In my opinion. :innocent:
     
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    You could help explain anywhere you feel there are errors in exegesis, and anywhere someone might have trouble understanding what has been related or additional details required to understand it clearly.

    In my opinion.
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    Oh no, not at all. I think once people read your OP and then read my post explaining your background, it will definitely be clear to them.
     
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