Alizee New Music Video

[Saint George]

For those of you who haven't heard of her, Alizee is a French pop singer who is much like Madona was in the USA. Being of French heritage, I have followed her musical career for years and I really like her singing and stage performances. To me, she is an artist and a performer.

Anyway, she recently came out with a music video "Shake" that is the talk of the internet as far as music videos are concerned. She doesn't sing in the video but she does quite a stage performance. I see her performance in the video as art and dancing but others see it as selling sex. Question - is this video fine art or just another way of selling videos? There is no nudity in the video but it's certainly is fun to watch.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-3101836263624326712

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[evearael]

Personally, I think that sort of dancing would be more appropriate in the bedroom than the stage... She has the right to dance like that, and I have the right to not allow my very young daughter to watch it.

 

[Ody]

Once you mentioned 'pop' i gave up all hope of looking at your link...

 

[jamaesi]

What /are/ the lyrics?
I think I heard "******* show me your titties like Girls Gone Wild... where ******* go to see naked ***."

And that's not to metion the "dancing." I love to dance all kinds of dance, from ballroom to raving to even a little naughty dancing with my girlfriends (we were fully clothed and doing it for fun, not for men to oogle). The dancing is obviously intended to arouse. As evearael said, it's more suited for the bedroom...


That video is many things- but not fine art. It's sad that women feel that in order to have for "love" and "attention" and "respect" and "acceptance" they need to allow themselves to become objectified.

I wouldn't let my cockatoo watch or listen to things like that- I couldn't image letting a impressionable child.

 

[Saint George]

That video is many things- but not fine art. It's sad that women feel that in order to have for "love" and "attention" and "respect" and "acceptance" they need to allow themselves to become objectified.

The lyrics are offensive. There is no doubt about that. But I disagree with you that she is doing it for attention or acceptance. She is a popular singer in Europe and she is quite rich. She can do anything she wants and she chose to do this. She was already accepted by large numbers of youth in France and in Europe in general. She is doing it because she is a performer and a singer. She is having fun doing it and so is her audience.

I wouldn't let my cockatoo watch or listen to things like that- I couldn't image letting a impressionable child.

Fair enough. But would you let a child watch American TV or even a G rated movie. American TV and movies are full of violence and bad language. Seeing a person or a cartoon figure being killed on the screen would be more impressionable to a child than anything that they would see in this video.

 

[jamaesi]

The lyrics are offensive. There is no doubt about that. But I disagree with you that she is doing it for attention or acceptance. She is a popular singer in Europe and she is quite rich. She can do anything she wants and she chose to do this. She was already accepted by large numbers of youth in France and in Europe in general. She is doing it because she is a performer and a singer. She is having fun doing it and so is her audience.

Ah, so European Paris Hilton?

Lovely.


PS- Money doesn't buy love or happiness or acceptance.

Fair enough. But would you let a child watch American TV or even a G rated movie. American TV and movies are full of violence and bad language. Seeing a person or a cartoon figure being killed on the screen would be more impressionable to a child than anything that they would see in this video.

I only allow my cockatoo to watch the Disney channel on the telly- very little to no bad language and violence. (She watches it during the day when I'm not home, it keeps her from feeling too alone- and parrots have the same intelligence as a 4 year old human child and maturity as a 2 year old human child.)

If I do have kids they definately won't be plopped down in front of an idiot box until they're old enough to understand things- they'll be playing with toys and being creative and doing art and learning and running about outside.

And I doubt seeing cartoon death would be more impressionable than seeing these real women as "role models." Children generally don't understand death (ask a lot of kids what they think death is and they'll answer with something like a long nap or going to be in a happy place in the sky with God and angels) but do understand we don't hurt each other. (I'm not saying they should be exposed to violence at a young age, around seven seems to be a general time at which they develop the ability to understand violence.)

Children do not understand sex- they aren't mature enough yet to, but they do want to be "adult" and do "adult" things. Seeing Alizee dress in next to nothing and shaking her butt around makes young girls want to do just that. Young girls love to dress up in ways they shouldn't and they don't quite understand why it is not a good idea nor how the attention they get when they dress as so isn't because of who they are but how they are dressed.


If she wants to do that, more power to her. I just wonder at why someone would want to do that and would rather not have young girls looking up to her as a role model.