Alec Baldwin Killed More People Than My Guns Have

[9-10ths_Penguin]

You made an argument that was devoid of facts or logic

Your ignorance of the facts supporting what I'm saying really isn't my problem.

If you're uninformed on the issue, Google is your friend. You can find any number of sources - of whatever political bent you want - that go into great detail about how the NRA makes its money.

 

[Heyo]

Look who's selling fear....but of the NRA & gun owners.

Fear? Information. Want more?
Why is the National Rifle Association so powerful?
The NRA is a lobbying group, there's no question about that - and they are very successful at it.

 

[Revoltingest]

I propose regulation for movies & other simulation of gun usage....
- Armors in movies should be highly trained in safety protocols,
& licensed to practice the profession.
- The armorer would have full & final authority in all gun matters,
including over domineering directors & actors.
Not a profession for shrinking violets.
- Anyone coming into contact with a gun must personally
verify that it is safe to handle, & has no live rounds, eg,
armorer, actor, director.
- Pointing a gun at anyone should only happen during filming.
Rehearsal & other activities should always have guns pointed
in a safe direction.
- Prop guns should never leave sight of the armorer except
when stored securely, ie, locked away with highly restricted
access.
- Vetting of safe gun status should be easy & obvious. This
would require new standards for function & more reliable
verification. Think of the Glock "red gun".
Factory Glock Training Pistols

 

[Guitar's Cry]

I'll treat this as detente.
(You're too nice to me...can't let disagreement last long.)

It's all good. I understand that disagreement doesn't imply disrespect.

 

[Revoltingest]

Fear? Information. Want more?
Why is the National Rifle Association so powerful?
The NRA is a lobbying group, there's no question about that - and they are very successful at it.

Ant-gunners are most adept at misrepresenting guns & the
NRA in order to heighten fear among the masses. It's why
they so often give out false information.

 

[ChristineM]

He said "less than" 1%.
And it's far far less than 1%.
Gotta read all the words in a post.

Ok so i change it to...

So that makes that less than 1% of deaths all ok, great

 

[Revoltingest]

It's all good. I understand that disagreement doesn't imply disrespect.

It can even be fun & productive.

 

[Revoltingest]

Ok so i change it to...

So that makes that less than 1% of deaths all ok, great

If one actually knows what an "assault rifle" is, then one
will see that many media reports falsely claim them as
the assailant's weapon. They're very difficult to own,
expensive, & not common. So their involvement in
wrongful shootings (except by governments) is rare
indeed....far far less than 1%. Not significant.

The real danger relates to common easily obtained guns.
This is the better area to consider for regulation.

 

[ChristineM]

"Highest" only if one ignores countries with higher records, eg, Brazil.

Oh sorry but thought you understood i meant high income countries.

 

[ChristineM]

If one actually knows what an "assault rifle" is, then one
will see that many media reports falsely claim them as
the assailant's weapon. They're very difficult to own,
expensive, & not common. So their involvement in
wrongful shootings (except by governments) is rare
indeed....far far less than 1%. Not significant.

The real danger relates to common easily obtained guns.
This is the better area to consider for regulation.

Significant to those who get shot.

So how about better regulation of all guns?

 

[Revoltingest]

Oh sorry but thought you understood i meant high income countries.
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I understand what is said.
But I have problems with things not said.
You neurotypicals sometimes assume too much.

 

[Revoltingest]

Significant to those who get shot.

I assumed you (a neurotypical) would understand statistical significance.

So how about better regulation of all guns?

Sounds good to me.
I've often made such proposals on RF.
Even one in this thread (post #143).
What did you think of it?

 

[ChristineM]

I understand what is said.
But I have problems with things not said.
You neurotypicals sometimes assume too much.

Of maybe is down to poor education in certain areas. I am not the most eloquent of speakers/writers. What you get is what you get,. Any confusion just ask.

 

[ChristineM]

Sounds good to me.
I've often made such proposals on RF.
Even one in this thread.
What did you think of it?

I didn't read it.

 

[ChristineM]

I assumed you (a neurotypical) would understand statistical significance.

I wouldn't know. I have never been shot but i understand if just 1 in a million is murdered by gun shot, that one is still needlessly dead

 

[Revoltingest]

Of maybe is down to poor education in certain areas. I am not the most eloquent of speakers/writers. What you get is what you get,. Any confusion just ask.

I admit to poor education.
Government run schools, ya know.

 

[ChristineM]

I admit to poor education.
Government run schools, ya know.

Well there ya go, swings and roundabouts.

 

[Revoltingest]

I wouldn't know. I have never been shot but i understand if just 1 in a million is murdered by gun shot, that one is still needlessly dead

FWIW, I oppose murder.
Public policy should be designed to curb it,
while still being constitutional.
See post #143.

 

[ChristineM]

FWIW, I oppose murder.
Public policy should be designed to curb it,
while still being constitutional.

Arming bears is not the answer

 

[Revoltingest]

Arming bears is not the answer

Especially angry ones in great pain from knee surgery.
See post #143.