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Alec Baldwin Killed More People Than My Guns Have

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by Bodie, Oct 27, 2021.

  1. Guitar's Cry

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    Same here!

    .22s are very capable weapons. Passing them off as non-deadly is baffling to me.
     
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  2. Guitar's Cry

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    Gotcha! But wasn't he still rehearsing? Like, wasn't firing a blank part of his job?
     
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    @Bodie Alec Baldwin has killed more people than your guns have? You didn't say more than you have? o_O

    I'm sure Alec Baldwin's guns haven't killed anyone either (this tragic incident involved someone else's gun).
     
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    Objective of car - hit and run assassination.

    Objective of gun- kill that deer and eat venison.

    Two can play that game as well.
     
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    If that's what the NRA really believes, then it's weird to me that they would oppose safe storage laws.

    For instance: Texas lawmakers approve safe gun storage program despite NRA
     
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    'Rust' assistant director admits he didn't check all rounds in gun before fatal shooting (msn.com)

    As more information comes out, this whole thing is sounding like a real cluster****. The armorer said that no live rounds were kept on the set, but the sheriff's department is saying they suspect there were live rounds on the set. (“blanks, dummy rounds and what we are suspecting were live rounds")

    I'm sure more information will come out in the days to come, but initial indications are that they seemed a bit too loosey-goosey about firearm safety.
     
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    Reconsider the post I addressed....
    Of course the 22 LR can kill....it's possible. It's even been used
    in close range assassinations by handgun. I spoke specifically
    about cumbersome single shot long barrel target rifles weighing
    over 10 lbs. They aren't designed to kill anything, & would be a
    poor choice indeed for that.

    Many things are not designed to kill, but still can, eg, kitchen
    knives, axes, golf clubs, javelins. But their intended function
    is something else...as is the case with my 22 LR target rifles.
     
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    The bottom line is that Alec Baldwin was the last line of defense in that, he was the one holding the gun so he should have made sure of it's loaded/unloaded state no matter what anyone told him. I am wondering as some others have if he will be charged with involuntary. manslaughter.
     
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    Because they're hypocrites. They don't actually support safe gun storage.

    They give lip-service to the idea in some materials they put out, but they're very much about making sure that a gun owner, just roused from sleep, can put bullets into an intruder (or what the groggy gun owner presumes to be an intruder) as quickly as possible... a use that's incompatible with safe storage and use of firearms.
     
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    No, this is whataboutism - so naturally ignored.
     
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    Are you familiar with your Remington 550? I wonder, because
    you seem to equate it to the 22 LR target rifles I spoke of, eg,
    Remington 40X, BSA Martini.
    Yours is a light weight semi-auto rifle, typically scoped, &
    suitable for hunting small game.
    Mine are much larger much heavier single shot rifles with
    iron sights designed for shooting particular paper targets,
    & utterly unsuited for hunting...too heavy, single shot,
    no field of view in sights.

    You claimed "all guns" are designed to kill. I provided
    counter-examples.
     
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    As long as you play the game consistently, I'm fine with it.

    If the purpose of your gun is to kill deer, then there's no Earthly reason why you would need to carry it loaded in a Wal-Mart.
     
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    I agree that he should have checked first and not relied on what others told him. I also wonder if any charges will be brought against Baldwin or any of the others involved in this. It seems likely, although I would imagine that someone like Alec Baldwin has the money to hire the best attorneys he can get.

    They might have to institute some new rules in the film industry. For example, they could mandate that all guns in movies be like this:

    [​IMG]
     
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    It seems that you didn't read the linked article.
    It never said the NRA opposed safe storage.
    Only that it opposed other aspects of the bill.
    Moreover, the NRA has always advocated secure storage,
    & has even offered safes for sale at a deep discount.

    BTW, I part ways with the NRA here. (I favor stringent
    storage requirements, & stiff penalties for negligence.)
     
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    And how many in the state who are not hunters but are gun owners?
     
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    Because hunting generally isn't the issue.

    The gun problem in your country is mostly:

    - suicide
    - deliberate homicide
    - "defensive" use of firearms

    (And keeping guns for the last point fuels the other two points)
     
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    The quotation marks suggest that you doubt guns are
    used for defensive purposes. Perhaps this results from
    the spotlight fallacy, ie, that you only see news when the
    claim of defense is dubious, but the news doesn't cover
    legitimate defense using guns.
    If you really want to challenge defensive use, you'd have
    to show that wrongful use is common relative to legitimate
    use. Can you?
     
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    I forgot about skeet. It appears to be one of the few Olympic sports that still uses the Imperial system of weights and measures. At least somewhat. The official shotguns are all twelve gauge. That number refers to the number of lead balls with the same diameter as the barrel to total one pound.
     
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    Guns are used defensively far more often than many realize. That is because a gun can be used defensively merely by brandishing it.
     
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