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Alec Baldwin Killed More People Than My Guns Have

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by Bodie, Oct 27, 2021.

  1. Guitar's Cry

    Guitar's Cry Verisimilitudinous

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    Um...I own a Remington 550. No way that is not a deadly rifle. Does it have the stopping power of a .308 Winchester? No, but I'd much rather have someone trying to swing it at me than shoot me with it.

    Guns are designed as tools to kill, whether we use them as such or not.
     
  2. Guitar's Cry

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    Cars aren't designed to kill things and we regulate the hell out of them due to being dangerous anyway.
     
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  3. Bodie

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    With more guns than people in the U.S. you'd think half of us would be dead if misuse was so rampant.
     
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    I used to hunt with a .22 when I was young. Mostly squirrel. Very neat kills that did not damage the meat. They kill very easily. I linked a video that showed a very lightweight .22 LR pistol that shot into ballistic gel. Even that was deadly.
     
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  5. Bodie

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    Statistically speaking you are far more likely to die or be injured in a car wreck than be murdered or injured by a firearm, I don't think anyone opposes driver education.
     
  6. Mock Turtle

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    Their best promotion - as to gun safety - would be to advise all not to own guns. :oops:
     
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    Cars are not designed to kill.

    Guns are.
     
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    Because a few misuse them? There are more guns than people in the U.S. and approximately 276 million cars and you are far more likely to die or be injured in a car wreck than killled or injured with a firearm and cars require licensing, etc.
     
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    Yet still you are far more likely to die or be injured in a car wreck than die or be injured by misuse of a firearm and there are far less cars than guns. So, I guess that even though there is training, licensing, etc. The thing that is not designed to kill is far more dangerous than the things that are. It boils down to personal responsibility education, and most importantly, putting those things in practice at all times which the NRA actively endorses and promotes.
     
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    There is an air rifle competition but skeet dosent use air rifles.

     
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    And yet, when it comes to ensure that safety and that only people who are likely to hold to the rules can have guns, they fight tooth and nail to prevent any laws in that direction. For the NRA safety is an option that shall never interfere with sales numbers.
     
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    No one is "anti-gun". And the fact that you think they are, or that you use such misleading terms indicate the reason for your confusion. It's like calling pro-choice advocates "pro-abortion" advocates, and then asking why they work in women's health clinics. Once you stop misrepresenting their position, you eliminate your own question.
     
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    Not really working though, is it?

    Unlike the NRA's programme of huge donations to politicians, to promote their interests. Those resources are working great.
     
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    When it is not promoting GUNS, that is.
     
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    Just the sheer number in circulation seems to cause so may deaths - when other countries don't have such ownership, feel no need of such, and usually have nothing like the number of deaths related to such weapons. The USA simply seems to be tied to its past when other nations have moved on. Let's build a new nation, and arm them all (just in case) - hardly makes sense does it?
     
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    That would address safety, but not essential
    protection and defense which is largely why guns are there in the first place aside from hunting.
     
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    Neither does cars that kill even more people.
     
  18. Mock Turtle

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    But, but, so many others don't need this protection - so why do Americans (some) insist on such? Perhaps you are just bound by your culture and history, and where change is necessary - like we do in so many other ways - but where some just steadfastly refuse to admit that the benefits of such weapon ownership could ever outweigh the deficits. But where they actually do.
     
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    And we regulate cars. We should continue to work towards gun regulation that is sensible and effective.

    I am not anti-gun. Rather I am anti-making-guns-seem-less-dangerous.

    Take this theme of "guns are just for target practice, but we need powerful ones or they aren't accurate." Guns are very specifically designed to make killing easier; this was their original function and even if it is a gun used only for target practice, its basic function is still there.

    As someone who lives in a rural area, having a firearm is almost a given, whether because of actual necessity or tradition. But they are kept with a great amount of respect and responsibility. They aren't just tools or toys; they're deadly weapons.

    Or at least, that's how my grandfathers and father kept them. Even in rural areas that feels different now.
     
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    Objective of car - transport. Objective of gun - kill some mf******. :oops:
     
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