Alchemy and Luciferianism

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Just thought I'd start this up again since I have absolutely no interest in an "same faith debate" on the subject, which is why I specifically posted it here.

I have been very interested in alchemy in theory and symbolic practice, and it seems it goes along quite while with the Luciferian's path. The concept of trasmutating yourself into gold is a straight up representation of seeking self "perfection" no matter if you see it as literally esoteric, symbolic, etc.

Any thoughts from any Luciferians?

 

[Gjallarhorn]

I've heard the traditional stages of alchemy likened to a spiritual journey, but never cared to research further. Hermeticism is weird.

 

[1137]

I've heard the traditional stages of alchemy likened to a spiritual journey, but never cared to research further. Hermeticism is weird.

Haha you've got that right! Somehow I never even realized the symbolism I've personally adopted was even related to Hermeticism though, nor that it was even alchemy at one point. Then again, such groups would probably consider me some sort of blasphemer because of the non-magical and purely, subjectively symbolic way I view such practices.

 

[Gjallarhorn]

Haha you've got that right! Somehow I never even realized the symbolism I've personally adopted was even related to Hermeticism though, nor that it was even alchemy at one point. Then again, such groups would probably consider me some sort of blasphemer because of the non-magical and purely, subjectively symbolic way I view such practices.

So, according to the omniscient Wikipedia:

Nigredo - Dark Night of the Soul
Albedo - Confrontation with the Shadow (might fall under Nigredo) and refining the Ego via removal of false images
Citrinitas - Merging the Ego and Shadow
Rubedo - Wholeness

Voila! The Magnus Opus.

 

[1137]

So, according to the omniscient Wikipedia:

Nigredo - Dark Night of the Soul
Albedo - Confrontation with the Shadow (might fall under Nigredo) and refining the Ego via removal of false images
Citrinitas - Merging the Ego and Shadow
Rubedo - Wholeness

Voila! The Magnus Opus.

I found something that said

Nigredo - The Shadow and dealing with that

Albedo - The anima, dealing with your masculine / feminine side (depending one what sex you are)

Citrinitas - Merging the Ego and unconscious

Rubedo - Wholeness

 

[Sylvan]

There are as many different schema for the stages of alchemical process as their are alchemical texts.

The idea that any magical order worth belonging to would find your nontheism blasphemous is giving yourself too much credit. Plenty of vaguely atheist members of the OTOs and Golden Dawns who consider their ritual experiences to be an epiphenomena of something entirely natural and just as profound.

 

[1137]

There are as many different schema for the stages of alchemical process as their are alchemical texts.

The idea that any magical order worth belonging to would find your nontheism blasphemous is giving yourself too much credit. Plenty of vaguely atheist members of the OTOs and Golden Dawns who consider their ritual experiences to be an epiphenomena of something entirely natural and just as profound.

I can't honestly say I know much about the Hermetic orders. I more interpret some things that they seem to believe in my own ways and use that. I probably could not explain many (if any) Hermetic beliefs the way they believe it rather than how I interpret them.

 

[Gjallarhorn]

Anyone want to try taking the 12-step alchemical process and making it metaphoric?

 

[1137]

Anyone want to try taking the 12-step alchemical process and making it metaphoric?

I'll stick with the basic four stages

 

[Iti oj]

I don't know enough. only what i said in the other thread

 

[Orias]

Alchemy is something that tends to have a certain flavor to it, each alchemist that becomes aware of his ability to transmute energies eventually ends up taking on a sort of specialization or class of technique.