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Ain Soph Aur

Discussion in 'Mysticism DIR' started by Nehustan, Jan 19, 2006.

  1. Nehustan

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    Following on from the last picture, and in respect to the female principle, we may come to the concept of the Godess. This is a common principle in what may be called pagan or animist thought. This can be seen manifest in Aegypt in Isis and Nuit, in Mespotamia in Istar, in the many female godesses in under modern heading 'Hinduism', Sophia in Greek, Venus, Aphrodite etc. etc.. In the Wiccan tradition this godess is seen in triplicity, mother earth, the moon, and space itself (the night sky if you will). During the period prior to the advent of Islam during the period known as Jahiliyah (ignorance), in Mecca itself idols of three daughters of Allah were worshipped. It is moot but there is good chance that these three correspond to the previously mentioned triplicity. For the purpose of this post we will consider the goddess personifying space through the traditions of the Order of the Oriental Templar (OTO). They as a result from their affinity for Aegyptology (mostly under the direction of Crowley, who was quoted earlier) call space by the name of Nuit, or just NU.



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    One can see in the above picture the Hebrew letters for NU, which correspond to the numerical value of 56. If the tree of life is considered from a sephirotic perspective, the sum of visible spheres is 10, 5 + 5, 55. There is thus an affinity between the sephirotic tree including Daath, and NU as with Daath there are eleven sephiroth, 11, 5 + 6, 56. The earlier quote from the book of the law is interesting here as Ain (nothing) numerically is 61. Thus it may be concluded that NU is within the void, the nothing, Ain. Again in the following representation the Number 56 is seen on Nuit's rump, this time in Roman Numerals and as a representation of space.

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    One may again consider the Nothing (Ain) beyond space (Nu), the limitless (Ain Soph) surrounding it, supported by Ain Soph Aur, Eloah, Al Nur, Allah. Thus it may be considered that in the semiotics of mysticism we have prototypical science.


    Bismillah Ar Rahman Ar Raheem​

    It is He Who hath created for you all things that are on earth; Moreover His design comprehended the heavens, for He gave order and perfection to the seven firmaments; and of all things He hath perfect knowledge. ​

    Sura Al Baqara, 2:29​
     
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    If we know consider the first pillar of Islam, the declaration of faith in the context of Ain, Ain Soph, Ain Soph Aur, it becomes plain exactly what the meaning in the modern context is.

    There is nothing worthy of worship but Allah. It is commonplace to hear that the 'shahada' is a negation followed by an affirmation. Let us delve deeper into the semantics of the phrase by playing a word game.

    The atheist says when it comes to God, there is nothing whereas the believer ponders the universe around him, sees many things, the sun, the moon, the stars, the earth, the trees, and the things he cannot see that exist in the universe. All of these are finite and thus things. God however is infinite and absolute, and thus by definition from within the creation, no thing, i.e. we cannot quantify him, measure him, explain him, and thus from he is beyond our perception and thus 'no thing'. Thus the atheist says nothing, the believer says 'no thing!!!!'

    The declaration of faith states that...​

    'There is nothing worthy of worship other than that which is worthy of worship'​

    La Illaha Il Allah (Al Nur)​

    or in the context of this thread...​

    AIN, AIN SOPH AUR​




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    Thus monothesim relies on the affirmation of the supreme creator, not merely of this stellar system, but of the entire first heaven within the 'kursi', that he is absolute and infinite. This as previously mentioned is Tawheed, and may be considered as the foundation that the five pillars of Islam are built upon. Although much has been written on this subject it is considered that the doctrine is summated in the 112th Surah of the Quran called 'The Sincerity' or Al Ikhlas.


    Bismillah Ar Rahman Ar Raheem​

    Say: He is Allah, the One and Only; Allah, the Eternal, Absolute;​
    He begetteth not, nor is He begotten;And there is none like unto Him. ​

    Sura Ikhlas (The Sincerity) 112​
     
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    To again return to the Zohar, and the concept of the infinite and absolute as alluded to by the simlitude of Ain Soph Aur, a hidden light...


    THE HIDDEN LIGHT
    (Zohar I, 31b-32a)


    "And God said: Let there be light. And there was light" (Genesis 1: 3). This is the light that the Holy One, blessed be He, created at the very beginning, and it is the light of the eye. It is this light that the Holy One, blessed be He, showed to Adam, who with its aid could see from one end of the world to the other. It is this light that the Holy One, blessed be He, showed to David, who uttered praises and said, "How great is Your goodness, which You have stored up for those who fear You" (Psalm 31: 20). It is this light that the Holy One, blessed be He, showed to Moses, who with its aid could see from Gilead to Dan. And when the Holy One, blessed be He, foresaw that three wicked generations would arise, namely, the generation of Enosh, the gene­ration of the Flood, and the generation of the Dispersion, He concealed it, to prevent them from using it. But the Holy One, blessed be He, gave it to Moses, and he used it for the three months that were left over from [his mother's] pregnancy, as it is said "she hid him for three months" (Exodus 2: 2), and after these three months he stood before Pharaoh. The Holy One, blessed be He, then took it from him, until he stood upon Mt. Sinai in order to receive the Torah. Then He restored it to him, and he made use of it throughout his life, and the children of Israel were not able to approach him until he put a veil over his face, as it is said "They were afraid to come near him" (Exodus 34: 30). He wrapped himself in it like a cloak. This is the meaning of "He covers himself with light as with a garment" (Psalm 104: 2).

    "Let there be light. And there was light." Wherever "And there was" occurs, it refers to both this world and the world to come.

    Rabbi Isaac said: The light that the Holy One, blessed be He, created during the creation of the world extended from one end of the world to the other, and then it was concealed. Why was it concealed? So that the wicked in the world should not make use of it, and, consequently, the worlds could not make use of it and it was stored up for the righteous - actually, for the righteous one, as it is said "Light is sown for the righteous, and gladness for the upright in heart" (Psalm 97: 11). Then the worlds will be perfumed with spices, and all will be one. But until the day of the world to come arrives, it will be hidden and concealed.

    Lachower, F, and Tisby, I., (1989) translated by Goldstein, D., The wisdom of the zohar: an anthology of texts volume II, Littman Library, Oxford University Press, Oxford, UK.
     
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    To address the specific area within this forum, and the merits of knowledge (Daath), Understanding (Binah), Wisdom (Chokmah), and the Crown (Kether) that subsequently results from study (Talmud) the Zohar states...


    THE LEVEL OF MYSTICAL KNOWLEDGE
    (Zohar Hadash, Midrash Shir ha-Shirim, 70d)

    Blessed are those who study the Torah in order to know the wisdom of their Master, and who know and understand the supernal mysteries, for when a man leaves the world in this way, all the punishments in the world are removed from him. Furthermore, they open for him the thirteen gates of the secrets of pure balsam, upon which the supernal Wisdom depends, and the Holy One, blessed be He, takes delight in him in the Garden of Eden, and he possesses both worlds: this world, and the world to come.

    The wisdom that a man should have is, first, that he should know how to understand the mystery of his Master; that he should know his body, and recognize what it is, how it was created, whence it came, and whither it is destined to go, and how the body is arranged, and how it will come to judgment in the presence of the holy King; that he should know how to understand the secrets of his soul (neshamah), what the nefesh is that is in him, whence it came, and why it entered this particular body, which is [no more than] a putrefying drop, here to-day and tomorrow in the grave; that he should understand this world, and know the world in which he lives, and upon what it is based; and, after this, the supernal mysteries of the world above, so that he might recognize his Master. And an understanding of all this a man may gain from the mysteries of the Torah.

    Come and see. Whoever goes to that world without knowledge, even if he has to his credit many good deeds, is expelled from all the gates of that world. Come and see what is written in this regard. "Tell me, [love of my soul, where you feed, where you rest your flock at noon]" (Song of Songs 1:7). Tell me the secrets of supernal wisdom, how you shepherd and guide the celestial world. Teach me the secrets of wisdom that I have not yet learned or acquired, so that I may not be ashamed at those supernal levels which I am to enter, for I have not yet understood them.

    Come and see what is written. "If you do not know, you fairest among women, [go out by the footsteps of the flock, and feed your kids by the shepherds' tents]" (Song of Songs 1: 8). If you come without knowledge, if you have not gained an understanding of wisdom before coming here, and if you do not know the mysteries of the supernal world, "go out"—you are not worthy to enter here without knowledge. "Go out by the footsteps of the flock," and gain knowledge among "the footsteps of the flock"; these are the men who are trampled underfoot, but they know the supernal mysteries of their Master, and through them you will learn how to gain understanding and knowledge. "And feed your kids"—these are the children in the schools, the young children who learn Torah. "By the shepherds' tents"—by the synagogues and schools where supernal wisdom is learned. Even though they do not know, you will be able to learn from the words of wisdom they speak.



    Lachower, F, and Tisby, I., (1989) translated by Goldstein, D., The wisdom of the zohar: an anthology of texts volume III, Littman Library, Oxford University Press, Oxford, UK.
     
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    To return to the Scholar Al Ghazali, in his treatise on the 99 names of Allah he considers the name Al Nur as the 93rd name writing...

    Al-Nur – The Light

    Light is the visible one by whom everything is made visible, for what is visible in itself and makes other things visible is called 'light'. In the measure that existence is opposed to non-existence, what is visible cannot but be linked to existence, for no darkness is darker than non-existence. What is free from the darkness of non-existence, and even from the possibility of non-existence, who draws everything from the darkness of non-existence to the manifestation of existence, is worthy of being named light. Existence is a light streaming to all things from the light of His essence, for He is the light of the heavens and the earth. And as there is not an atom of the light of the sun which does not by itself lead one to the existence of the sun which illuminates it, so there is not a single atom from the existents of the heavens and the earth and what lies between them which does not lead one by the very possibility of its existence to the necessary existence who brings them into being. What we have remarked about the meaning of the Manifest will help you understand the meaning of light, and will allow you to dispense with the arbitrary remarks made about its meaning.

    Al Ghazali,The ninety nine beautiful names of God (al maqsad al asna fi sharh asma Allah al husna) translated by Burrell, D. B, and Daher, N., 1992, The Islamic Texts Society, Cambridge, UK.
     
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    Bismillah Ar Rahman Ar Raheem​

    And remember Allah took a covenant from the People of the Book, to make it known and clear to mankind, and not to hide it; but they threw it away behind their backs, and purchased with it some miserable gain! And vile was the bargain they made!

    Surah Imran, 3:187​


    To remain with Al Ghazali and to quote from his opus 'The Revival of the Religious Sciences' (Ihya Ulum Din), a collection of forty chapters, the first is simply called 'The Aquisition of knowledge' wherein he writes...​

    Excellence of Teaching

    Quran. God says: When they return to them they warn their people, so that they may guard themselves 9:122. It means teaching and guidance. God says: Remember when God took a covenant from the People of the Book - you shall surely make it known to mankind and not conceal it 3:187 It shows that teaching was binding on them. God says: A party from them conceal the truth although they know it - 2:140. This shows that concealing truth is unlawful. God says: Don't conceal evidence for whoever conceals it is wicked at heart - 2:283. The Prophet said: God does not give a learned man any knowledge until He takes from him a covenant as He took covenant from the prophets, namely to make it known to the people and not conceal it. God says: Who is better in speech than one who calls towards God and does good - 41:33? God says: Call towards the way of your Lord with wisdom and good sermon - 16:125. God says: He teaches them the Book and wisdom - 2:125.

    Hadith. The Holy Prophet said to Mu'az when he was about to start for Yemen: If God gives guidance to a man through your help, it is better than the world and its contents. He said: If a man learns a section of knowledge to teach it to the people, he will be given the rewards of seventy Siddiqs (true righteous men). Jesus Christ said: He who acquires knowledge, acts up to it and teaches it to the people will be called great in the kingdom of heavens. The Prophet said: On the Day of Resurrection God will say to the worshippers and the warriors: Enter Paradise. The learned will then say: By virtue of our learning you have worshipped and fought. God will then say: You are like some of my angels Intercede and your intercession will be accepted. So they will intercede and enter Paradise. This rank they will get for that knowledge which reached others and not for the knowledge which did not reach others but remained with them. The Prophet said: God will not take away knowledge from men after He has given it to them, rather He will withdraw it after taking the lives of the learned men. Wherever a learned man will pass away the knowledge with him will also pass away and at last there will be none left except the ignorant leaders. Whenever anything will be asked to them, they will give decision without knowledge for which they will be misguided and will misguide others. The Prophet said: If a man after acquiring knowledge keeps it concealed, God will drag him with the bridle of fire on the Resurrection Day.

    The Holy Prophet said: How excellent a gift and how excellent a present is a word of wisdom which you hear and remember and then carry it and teach it to your brother Muslim. It is equal to worship for one year. He said: Accursed is the world and what is therein except one who remembers the glorious God, one who makes friendship with Him, one who learns and teaches. God, His angels the inmates of heaven and earth even the ant in its hole and the fish in the sea like one who teaches good to the people. He said: A Muslim gives his brother Muslim no greater benefit than a fair tradition which has reached him and which he subsequently transmits to him. He said: If a believer hears a good advice and then translates it into action, it is better than his worship for one year. The Prophet once came out and saw two assemblies, one was calling God and offering their supplications to God. If He wishes, He may grant them and if He wishes He may reject them. Another group was giving good instructions to the people, I have been sent as a teacher. Then he went to them and took his seat among them.


    The Prophet said: the simile of guidance and knowledge with which God sent me is like that of profuse rain falling upon a certain locality. One spot becomes full of water and consequently abundant herbs and grass grow therein. The ditches and the canals in another spot reserve water and God gives benefit to mankind therewith. They drink water therefrom, irrigate their lands and grow crops. Then there is a spot which neither hoards water, nor grows any grass and herb. The first simile is that of a man who gets benefit from his knowledge. The second simile is that of a man who does benefit to others. The third simile is that of man who is deprived of both the benefits. The Prophet said: One who guides towards something good is like one who does it.

    The Holy Prophet said ; When a man dies, all his actions stop except three—(1) a permanent edowment for charity, (2) useful knowledge, and (3) righteous successors. He said: There is no envy except for two persons—(1) one whom God has given knowledge according to which he conducts himself and teaches it to the people, and (2) one whom God has given wealth and power to spend it and he spends it in good deeds. He said: May God's mercy be upon my successors. He was asked: Who are your successors? He said: Those who love my ways, and teach them to the people.



    Al Ghazali, Ihya Ulum Din (Book I), translated by Fazlul-Karim, M., 1991, Islamic Book Service, New Delhi, India.


    Beholden to you is the obligation to learn, and to share that which you possess....
     
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    Isn't interesting that considering the rumours circulating of Newton's Templar leanings that he was so instrumental in forming the theory of light. Refraction, reflection, the prism and splitting light from its source
     
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    Well I wasn't aware of the direct Templar connection, tho' of course there is the whole Prieuré de Sion phenomena going on with this Da Vinci code thing. Without doubt tho' when one considers the list of thinkers and artists within the list of people considered to be from the 'ship' its obvious they would have studied some pretty high brow stuff, and optics are just that. Thinking about it, as this thread deals with the tree of life, and even Adams fall from the supernal eden, it is a little ironic that Newton's discovery of gravity, as with Adam includes a tree and an apple.


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    i don't really hold much with the DaVinci code, because most of it is rubbish - always doubt the word of a man can't describe distances properly in the city he sets his stories

    But ... there is something about the knowledge of al-ghazali that makes appearance both in the kaballah and references to Masonism. We know that Masonic practices were common in the 16th and 17th centuries because of their link to the Jacobite risings in england.

    It wouldn't be such a leap that such ideas and knowledge made thier way to Newton and sparked something off.
     
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    Yeh I was very dissapointed by the Da Vinci code when I read it. It was an ok read, until Brown's lead character (and thus one must presume Brown) gets all his symbols mixed up. I mean that is fine but the lead character is a semiotics professor specialising in religious symbolism, well Umberto Eco he most certainly isn't. I'm waiting for the film, usually weak books make ok films, and it is well within the academic capabilities of the people who own (work in) Hollywood (Propaganda 61 as I like to think of them!!!), so I'll put my feet up and watch it with interest, and no doubt some level of amusement.

    As a side note Umberto Eco in his 'Foucault's Pendulum' says that you can always tell a lunatic as he invariably mentions the Templar in the first 5 minutes of a conversation, I manage not to mention them until my 20th post....pretty impressive....but please do not take that as a sign that I am not a lunatic, for most certainly I am.
     
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    Actually very interesting, I just had a quick wiki for Newton and it turns up much of what you said, on optics and also some about his 'classical mechanics' as opposed to the quantum variety. I thought what was particularly interesting was that he was accused of being a Rosicrucian, which may be worth returning to, it also goes on to cite mystical elements of Christianity and attacks upon it, with Newton if you like presenting a prototypical 'Intelligent Design' tho' probably based more on his science, maths and geometry than the book of Genesis. Thus it would seem to tie in that he was exposed to the very ideas you suggest he was. Interestingly enough Wiki also says that he is generally thought to have recanted the concept of trinity as delineated by the Nicean creed.

    I actually once used the mundane concept of light to illustrate what a strange idea trinity was if one was considering Ain Soph Aur/Al Nur/Eloah/Allah. My point was this, sit in daylight (or even in a room lit by electric light), take your hands and try and split said light into parts...its not possible. So if this feat is nigh impossible with mundane light we can see (lets ignore the effect of gravity bending light) then how much more impossible is it to split Ain Soph Aur/Al Nur into parts. I think given in previous posts I have delineated how Jehesuah is a star, with Shin descending onto the name Jahweh, we may consider that the light beyond the creation shone into the creation through Jeheshuah, in fact through all prophets in their word and action. To again quote the specific from the Quran...

    Bismillah Ar Rahman Ar Raheem

    Allah is the Light of the heavens and the earth. The Parable of His Light is as if there were a Niche and within it a Lamp: the Lamp enclosed in Glass: the glass as it were a brilliant star: Lit from a blessed Tree, an Olive, neither of the east nor of the west, whose oil is well-nigh luminous, though fire scarce touched it: Light upon Light! Allah doth guide whom He will to His Light: Allah doth set forth Parables for men: and Allah doth know all things. (Lit is such a Light) in houses, which Allah hath permitted to be raised to honour; for the celebration, in them, of His name: In them is He glorified in the mornings and in the evenings, (again and again).

    Sura An Nur 24:25-36​


    Of course if we consider Jahweh, Jeheshuah, and Ruach Elohim, this can be seen as a type of trinity, but this is clearly not a trinity of Eloah/Allah, the absolute and infinite. We could see Jawheh as the word in whose 'image' Adam Qadmon was made, with Jeheshuah being literally a son of/second Adam and thus in Jahweh's image, again the word, with the Ruach Elohim being the spirit that proceeds from Ain Soph (Aur)/Al Nur/Eloah/Allah as delineated within this thread.​


    There was a thread I started which brought up some interesting features of this debate in the context of what are now called Judaism and Christianity.​
     
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    I was looking around and came across another thread which has a quite beautiful exposition of Tawheed by Imam Ali also known as the fourth rightly guided Caliph...

    Narrated by al_Nauman bin Saad

    I was in the city of Kufa, visiting the Prince and Commander of the Believers, Ali bin Abi Talib,when Nawf bin Abdullah came to see him and said: O Amir al Mumineen there are forty Jews at the door requesting to see you. Ali RA replied: 'Let them in'. When the visitors stood before him their spokesman said: 'O, Ali, describe to us your Lord who is in the heavens, how is that, how was He before, when was He, and what is He'.

    Ali RA immedietly straighteded up his sitting posture,and he replied,'Hearken to me and do not worry! You need not ask anyone else beside me about this subject.' Ali then added: 'My Lord was there first, and nothing ever existed besides Him. He did not commence from what was or was intermingled with what!

    His attributes cannot be fixed or limited. He is not an apparition that can be pursued or delimited, nor is He veiled to be contained. He did not issue from what was not, and thus He is not an occurrence. Excalted, and most glorius is the Creator and Maker of everything, Lord of the universe, Whose divine majesty is most awesome and beyond having to explicate His essence to His creation, and instead, we say (as He described Himself, Quran 57:3) that He was there from the beginningless beginning,and He is the eternal without end. He is not subject to changes, nor is He affected by what He causes to change. How can He be described by an occurrence He created, and how can His divine being be limited to the best fathom of the greatest rhetoricians of all times.

    He did not emerg from something else that can lead one to assume His manifestation, nor did He emanate from anything else that brought Him into being. He is without how, and He is closer than one's jugular veing, and yet, He is beyond descritption in the widest perceivable realms. Not a single glaring of anyone of His entire creation combined is ever hidden to Him, nor the sequence of any uttering or a sound is ever veiled to Him or is unperceived by Him, and neither is a single progression of any toddler is obscure to His divine knowledge, and nor is the strech of the tiniest step taken by any of His creation in a dark gloomy night, or at any depth or layer of this world is not visible to Him. The brilliant moon in its fullness does not veil His magnificent effulgent presence, nor can the radient sun and full gamut of its rays brighten and make His presence more luminous. The orderly changing streches of the nights and what they bring, and the prolongation and shortening of the daylight hours are within His knowldege, for He alone has the knowledge of what He wills to exist, and the wisdom behind their alterations. He is the omniscient Lord who is full of knowledge of every space, time, sequence, duration and term.

    The time allotted for the existence of His creation is predetermined solely by Him, and boundaries are not His attributes. He did not create things from preexisting matters nor from elements that were known before Him rather, He created everything from inception, He made their nature perfect for their respective needs, and He fashioned everything and rendered it its best complementary form. Exalted is He in His glory, for there is nothing that can prevent or limit His reach, nor can anything interfere in His will. He does not benefit from the obedience of His creation, and He is swift in answering their prayers.

    The countless myriads of angels in the heavens as well as the two earths are subservient to Him. His knowledge of the annihilated beings and past souls is as intricate as His knowledge of the ever-expanding universe and changing lives. His knowledge encompasses everything in the highest heavens and what is in the deepest layers of the earth. He knows everything. He distinguishes the multitude of sounds He created, and each of them stands distinct from the others beofre Him. Languages do not preoccupy HIm. He is the All-hearing Lord without the extremities of a body, and He alone manages the entire universe, and He is the All-seeing Lord, the LIving and the sole Sustaining power behind the entire existence.

    Glory be to HIm, He spoke to Moses with words without the need for limbs or tools, nor lips nor through the vibration of a uvular sound. Exalted is He beyond ascription of mechanical attributes. He who alleges that our Lord is limited is indeed ignorant of the Creator who is worshipped in the heavens and earth. The one that imagines Him contained within boundaries will live his life confused and mixed up. Instead, it is God Almighty, Allah, who encompasses everything. Threfore, if you are troubled, and if you have gone to the extent of asking questions to describe the Merficful Lord, seeking an explation beyond what He already revealed about Himself, inquiring in excess of the manifest proof of His sovereignty then describe to me the archangels Gabriel, Michael or Israfil. How can you? Thus, if you are incapable of describeing the created (angels) then how can you describe the Creator? What you can understand is limited to recognising the attributes and the essence of perceived matter, but when it comes to describeing the One Whom no slumber nor sleep can seize Him, you will surely fail. To HImbelongs what the two earths, the heavens and all what they embody, and He is the Lord of the magnificient throne."

    (Also narrated by al-Numan and Ishaq)

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    The beauty of the righteous and the ranks of the elite--A collection of over 1000 rare accounts of the blessed companions of God's Messenger Muhammed Saws based on the classic 10th century work of Imam abu Naim Alasfahani (948-1038 CE) Hiyat-ul Awliya wa Tabaqat Al-Asifya

    English by Shaykh Muhammed AlAkili Perl Publishing House--1995 PA, USA
     
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    I was having a look around and found an oft used image of the rose cross alluded to earlier, this is seen to associate the word INRI with the ressurrection, in its zodiacal association as will be explained. It is of course an association which is not held by muslims, who believe that during the three days of easter Jeheshuah was 'as Jonah' as later testified by Jeheshuah himself. It is commonly by believed by muslims that a relative of Jesus took his place hanging as it were from a tree. Its is believed that this relative was a member of the sect of soldiers known collectively as the dagger-men, and that this character is later directly called brother or Thomas. It is this very belief that was the main heresy upon which the Templar were tried, and its very basis in scripture which made it all the more dangerous.

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    Here is seen around the rosy cross the Acronym INRI associated in Hebrew with Yod (virgo/service), Nun (scorpio/death), Resh (sun/resurrection)and again Yod (virgo/service). This is delineated as...


    I. N. R. I.​
    Yod. Nun. Resh. Yod.​
    Virgo, Isis, Mighty Mother.​
    Scorpio, Aphopis, Destroyer.​
    Sol, Osiris, Slain and Risen.​
    Isis, Aphopis, Osiris..​
    I. A. O. ​



    This illustrates syncretism of the montheistic religion of Jeheshuah with the Hellenic/Romanic solar traditions (Apollo/Sol Invictus), and draws clearly on the rites of Aegypt be that Ra or Osiris, where it is said Jeheshuah was crucified spiritually. It is oft heard said of Jeheshuah, and perhaps Judas Thomas...​


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    'Not risen as the sun, risen as a star behind a cross'
     
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    To return to the third post in this thread and the quoted symbolism of the tree...

    Then shall the kingdom of heaven be likened unto ten virgins, which took their lamps, and went forth to meet the bridegroom. And five of them were wise, and five were foolish. They that were foolish took their lamps, and took no oil with them: But the wise took oil in their vessels with their lamps. While the bridegroom tarried, they all slumbered and slept. And at midnight there was a cry made, Behold, the bridegroom cometh; go ye out to meet him. Then all those virgins arose, and trimmed their lamps. And the foolish said unto the wise, Give us of your oil; for our lamps are gone out. But the wise answered, saying, Not so; lest there be not enough for us and you: but go ye rather to them that sell, and buy for yourselves. And while they went to buy, the bridegroom came; and they that were ready went in with him to the marriage: and the door was shut. Afterward came also the other virgins, saying, Lord, Lord, open to us. But he answered and said, Verily I say unto you, I know you not. Watch therefore, for ye know neither the day nor the hour wherein the Son of man cometh.

    we can see when the ten virgins are considered to represent the ten sephirah of the tree that there appears a star rising above a cross, which could be considered indicative of the rapture.​


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    To briefly revisit 'resurrection from an Islamic perspective, Muslims believe in the life to come, when Allah/Eloah creates a new world after the 'heavens have folded'. They also consider sleep 'a little death', hence...

    Bismillah Ar Rahman Ar Raheem​


    'And He it is Who makes the Night as a Robe for you, and Sleep as Repose, and makes the Day (as it were) a Resurrection. ' ​


    The Criterion, Sura 25:47​



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    Regarding the return of Jeheshuah from a muslim perspective it is very much considered of this world, with him establishing an egalitarian world order based upon his teachings and in accordance with the teachings of Muhammad.​
     
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    Regarding Adam Qadmon as IHVH, Microcosm/Macrocosm, descending down the middle pillar Yod/Kether, He/Tipareth, Vau/Yesod, and He/Malkuth, I found this interesting image here...

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    The caption reads...​


    'This lovely steel sculpture is an interpretation of Adam Kadmon, or ADM QDMVN, the Kabbalah (Jewish mysticism) symbol of the perfect joining of male and female, made into a Tree of Life.'​

    This symbol as representative of Adam Qadmon as the word IHVH is decribed here


    It seems suitable that the concept of Shekhinah be considered shortly...​
     
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    However prior to this consideration we will return to the concept of the Godess, and the 'daughters of Allah' from the period prior to the establishment of the Islamic nation. As was mentioned the godess (as with some gods) are often considered in a triplicity. On the triple godess Alternative Religions says...

    There are several styles of the Lunar Triple Goddess symbol, representing the three aspects of the moon (waxing, waning, and full) and womankind (mother, maiden, crone), as well as the Lady, or Goddess, the feminine polarity of the universe.

    This was touched upon in our consideration of the concept of Nuit/NU, but again Alternative Religions says...

    The Goddess Nuit (Nut, Nwt, Nuith, Nathor). Nut (noot) is the Egyptian Goddess of the sky, representing the fullness of the cosmos. She is usually depicted nude, a body made of stars, arching over the world. In Egyptian mythology, Nut swallowed the sun every evening, and gave birth to it every morning. She was the mother of the deities Osiris, Isis, Seth and Nephthys. Her name is the root of the word "night" in a number of tongues. In the Thelemic faith, Nut is Nuit, the personification of infinite space, the goddess who revealed herself to Aleister Crowley in 1904.

    This brings us then to the 'daughters of Allah' who were amongst the chief idols at Mecca/Bacca, and have lead many to infer that Allah is in fact a pagan moon god/godess Himself, but as the Quran states...

    Bismillah Ar Rahman Ar Raheem​

    And no true understanding of God have they [who worship aught beside Him], inasmuch as the whole of the earth will be as a [mere] handful to Him on Resurrection Day, and the heavens will be rolled up in His right hand: limitless is He in His glory, and sublimely exalted above anything to which they may ascribe a share in His divinity!​

    Surah Az Zumar, 39:67​

    However despite this clear statement that Allah is beyond, and exalted beyond our perception, people will and often do ascribe many things to Allah of which they have no knowledge. Again as the Quran states...​

    Bismillah Ar Rahman Ar Raheem​

    Or have they taken for worship (other) gods besides him? Say, "Bring your convincing proof: this is the Message of those with me and the Message of those before me." But most of them know not the Truth, and so turn away.​

    Surah Al Anbiya, 21:24​

    and in regard to the Quran itself...​

    Bismillah Ar Rahman Ar Raheem​

    O mankind! verily there hath come to you a convincing proof from your Lord: For We have sent unto you a light (that is) manifest. ​

    Sura An Nisa, 4:174​

    Here then can be seen the message of Muhammad, and it was in his clear repudiation of the idols of false gods at Mecca/Bacca, specifically the 'daughters of Allah' which lead to the flight from Mecca from when the Islamic year '0' begins, leading to the establishment of the Islamic nation at Al Yathrib which came to be known as Al Medinah, The City. In thus doing he was following the very same path as his ancestor Abraham, from whom it is said he was descended via Ishmael, through Banu Quraish, and Banu Hashim. ​

    The daughters of Allah, who being three in number may be considered as a trine/triplicity were said to be Al Uzzah (Venus) most revered of all and pleased with human sacrifice, Manah, the goddess of destiny, and Al Lat, the goddess of vegetable life. It is oft heard that muslims think that Allah was only known to the Arabs post the revelation to Muhammad, which is quite plainly absurd. Allah was, as is cited the supreme God of the Arabs, dating back from long before Muhammad to his ancestor Abraham. The name ALLH/ALH is clear in scripture predating Muhammad, and in fact it was the very corruption of the faith of Abraham that lead to the revelation to the arabs and by extension all mankind, with specific parts of the revelation addressed to the people of the book.​

    While on the subject of the godess it would be rude to purposely miss the association that the morning star, venus, has with the pentagram, and bring in what is often called the Golden mean. Alternative Religions states that...​

    The pentagram is a five pointed star commonly associated with Wicca, Ritual magick, Satanism, and Masonry. The Pentagram has a long and complex history as a religious symbol. Found scrawled in caves of ancient Babylonia, the five pointed star was copied from the star shaped pattern formed by the travels of the planet Venus in the sky. The emblem remained popular through many cultures and time periods- it was called the pentalpha by the Greeks, who believed it had magical properties. For a time, it was the official seal of the city of Jerusalem.

    Moreover it is thought that the planetary symbol for venus is the only symbol which unites all the sephiroth upon the sephirotic tree...


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    When one considers the previous post with Adam Qadmon in the image of Jahweh, and With Venus as the Godess of love unifying the tree we may again consider the formula​


    יהוה אהבה אחד

    Jahweh is Love and Unity
    or
    26 = 13 + 13


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    (continued from previous post)

    And so we come to the golden mean, which has become very popular since its exposition in......The DaVinci Code!!!! I will again refer to Alternative Religions for a brief explanation...

    [font=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Phi[/font]

    [font=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Phi is a unique number, found in art, architecture, and throughout nature. It is the basis for the Golden section (also called the golden mean or ratio). It is named for the Greek letter used as its symbol:


    [/font][font=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Phi= 1.618033988749895...

    The Golden ratio is a proportion, determined by the number Phi.

    To find the Golden Ratio, one must divide a line so that the ratio of the line to the larger segment is equal to the ratio of the larger segment to the smaller:

    This can be done by making a= b x phi

    The ratio of the length of line (A) to the length of line segment (B)

    is the same as

    [/font][font=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]the ratio of the length of segment (B) to the length of segment (C):[/font]



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    [font=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Creating a square from the long segment of the line, and connecting to form a rectangle on the short end, we get a Golden Rectangle: [/font]



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    [font=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]The arms of a Pentacle conform to the golden ratio:[/font]


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    [font=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif](continued from previous post)[/font]

    [font=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Expressed as a numerical sequence, Phi is very close to the Fibonacci sequence. The Fibonacci sequence is a series of numbers obtained by continually adding each number to that before it:[/font]
    [font=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]1, 1, 2, 3, 5, 8, 13, 21, 34, 55, 89, 144, etc.[/font]

    [font=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]The Phi ratio is often found reflected in nature- in the spirals of the nautilus, in the growth patterns of plants, the structure of DNA. Buildings such as the Parthenon and the Cathedral at Chartres were built using the Golden Proportion.[/font]

    [font=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]If you add a square to the long side of the "golden rectangle," you'll get a larger golden rectangle:[/font]


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    [font=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]If you continue to add squares in this way, you'll see the basis for nature's spiral patterns.[/font]


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