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Ahmadiyya peaceful Islam: some most important books

TransmutingSoul

TransmutingSoul

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paarsurrey said:
Written by Mirza Ghulam Ahmad- the Promised Messiah/Imam Mahdi.

The Philosophy of the Teachings of Islam
Jesus In India
A Message of Peace
The Holy War

All of them are available online, please.
Right?

Regards
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A question about the Holy War and I take my thoughts from this quote.

"... Since the very planning of the event, the Promised Messiah(as) laid down two fundamental principles as his conditions for the debate. First, all claims and arguments should be sourced strictly from the respective party’s scriptures. Secondly, he emphasised that a living religion must demonstrate Heavenly Signs in its favour. The Christian side, however, proved thoroughly inept in both areas."

Given that statement, why do you think that Mirza Ghulam Ahmad never responded to the invitations of Baha'i to participate in such a debate?

Regards Tony
 
paarsurrey

paarsurrey

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Jeremiah Ames said:
How can he come when he is already here?
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That is a later "invention", earlier they (the Pauline-Christians) used to give the dates for the Second Coming as the signs for it had got fulfilled. Right?
When the Second Coming did not occur in the Pauline-Christians, it happened in the Muslims; the Pauline-Christians got disgusted so they made a pretext for denial that he is already here, I gather. Right?

Regards
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Chapter 43: Signs of the Second Coming - Church of Jesus ...
https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org › gospel-principles
Some of the signs foretelling the Second Coming of Jesus Christ have already been or are now being fulfilled. Others will be fulfilled in the future.

Jeremiah Ames said:
How can he come when he is already here?
Click to expand...
That is a later "invention", earlier they (the Pauline-Christians) used to give the dates for the Second Coming as the signs for it had got fulfilled. Right?
When the Second Coming did not occur in the Pauline-Christians, it happened in the Muslims; the Pauline-Christians got disgusted so they made a pretext for denial that he is already here, I gather. Right?

Regards
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Chapter 43: Signs of the Second Coming - Church of Jesus ...
https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org › gospel-principles
Some of the signs foretelling the Second Coming of Jesus Christ have already been or are now being fulfilled. Others will be fulfilled in the future.
https://www.tomorrowsworld.org › booklets › content
The Second Coming of Christ will be the most important event of this generation. Christ is coming back! Make no mistake about it.

The Second Coming Has Been 'Imminent' for 2000 Years
https://people.howstuffworks.com › second-coming
Nov 19, 2020 — In the 1840s, the Millerites sold their Earthly possessions ahead of William Miller's chosen date of Oct. 22, 1844.
 
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TransmutingSoul

TransmutingSoul

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paarsurrey said:
The Second Coming Has Been 'Imminent' for 2000 Years
https://people.howstuffworks.com › second-coming
Nov 19, 2020 — In the 1840s, the Millerites sold their Earthly possessions ahead of William Miller's chosen date of Oct. 22, 1844
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These are worthy of inclusion in a book paarsurrey.

I personally see William Miller got the year right. There was and event on May 23rd in 1844 when the Bab declared.

The Bab subsequently declared his God given Mission at the Kaaba in front of all the pilgrims. That is amazing courage, is it not?

At his subsequent trial, the Bab did offer this.

"....At last the stillness which brooded over them was broken by the Nizámu’l-‘Ulama’. “Whom do you claim to be,” he asked the Báb, “and what is the message which you have brought?” “I am,” thrice exclaimed the Báb, “I am, I am, the promised One! I am the One whose name you have for a thousand years invoked, at whose mention you have risen, whose advent you have longed to witness, and the hour of whose Revelation you have prayed God to hasten. Verily I say, it is incumbent upon the peoples of both the East and the West to obey My word and to pledge allegiance to My person.”"

Why do you think that Mirza Ghulam Ahmad has not written much about the Bab and Baha'u'llah, who both made the claim before him?

Also I like to consider Mirza Ghulam Ahmad was gifted books written by the Bab and Baha'u'llah, to which it is recorded, in another book, that Mirza Ghulam Ahmad said he had mastered the teachings?

Regards Tony
 
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