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AHHH! The beauty of Socialism unplugged!

Discussion in 'North American Politics' started by KenS, Jun 11, 2019.

  1. KenS

    KenS Well-Known Member

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    She isn't a socialist. She is a social capitalist who routinely thinks that the negative impact of big capitalism on society can be fixed by implementing more social programs i.e panem et circenses to divert public disapproval away from the government.

    And I highly doubt that giving our representative a raise will stop them from wanting more money and taking bribes from lobbyist. She just wants more money because she is a greedy capitalist like all the rest of them.
     
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  3. tytlyf

    tytlyf The Mind's Eye

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    OP, your first problem is your sources. Have you fact checked them? Don't fall trap to radical RW media. They're coming for ya!
     
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  5. sun rise

    sun rise "Let there be peace and love among all"
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    Right wing mental process:

    Socialism is evil.
    Everyone is filty rich so increasing taxes on the top 1% is increasing taxes on everyone.
    Socialism is evil.
    Democratic socialism is socialism and thus evil
    AOC is evil.
    Socialism is evil.
    AOC wants Congress to have a raise and she's evil so giving a raise to Congress after many many years of no raise is evil.
     
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    I don't think she puts a lot of critical thinking into the ideas that pop into her head. Why should she? It's probably what got her elected. Makes her an excellent democratic counter point for Trump.
     
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  8. KenS

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    When she was trying to convince the reporter that raises are necessary to stop taking bribes as lobbyists.
     
  9. KenS

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    Nope! Just ignore Venezuela and Cuba and repeat.
     
  10. SugarOcean

    SugarOcean "Popcorn" = Eared corn w/o sunscreen

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    I've defined her name as an acronym. AOC = Abomination Of Congress.
    I don't believe she's a Socialist nor a Capitalist of any kind. I think she's a Marxist.
    I also think she's not that intelligent. I would use the M word but that would be cruel to the letter M.
    She is so bad at public speaking that she's now hired a speech writer so that she's taken more seriously. However, there is no speech writer when she's live on C-SPAN .

    She and her Socialist backers are selling the naive a bill of goods. National Socialism has never worked well for any nation in history.
     
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    The US hatred of socialism is almost pathological. It's insane. Why is this all of a sudden a huge issue again?
     
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  12. SugarOcean

    SugarOcean "Popcorn" = Eared corn w/o sunscreen

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    This article?
     
  13. KenS

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    It wasn't the one I looked at, it actually had the video interview.
     
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    Because it is raising its head cloaked in sheep's clothing
     
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    As a European I have a really hard time understanding why US people hate socialism. I much prefer a nationalised health service, rail service, electric board and prison system. I can't really think of a system much worse than trying to make profit from sick people or criminals, but there you go.
     
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  16. SugarOcean

    SugarOcean "Popcorn" = Eared corn w/o sunscreen

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    I looked for something like that but didn't find anything. I'll keep looking. It's better to hear it from her own lips anyway. But at least the written article and her quotes do for now.
     
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    Unraveling one of the OP's sources:

    (a) Big League Politics - Wikipedia -
    • Big League Politics is an American far-right media website founded by former Breitbart News employees. The site was announced in 2017 by one of its founders as an investigative outfit. In early 2018, Big League Politics was acquired by Mustard Seed Media which is owned by Reilly O'Neal and Noel Fritsch. On its about page, Big League Politics states "We are not conservative. We are not liberal". Its editor-in-chief is former Breitbart reporter Patrick Howley. The Wall Street Journal describes the website as "backed by Republican operatives".
    • The website has promoted conspiracy theories, such as the QAnon conspiracy theory and Murder of Seth Rich conspiracy theories. The New York Times described Big League Politics as "an obscure right-wing news site [...] which has promoted conspiracy theories and written favorably about white nationalist candidates."
    (b) Oooo, ... neat! "In early 2018, Big League Poliics was acquired by Mustard Seed Media owned by Reilly O'ONeal and Noel Fritsch."

    (c) Timothy Reilly O'Neal and Noel Fritsch. https://www.huffpost.com/entry/big-league-politics-patrick-howley_n_5bbe210de4b0876edaa4a1fd?guccounter=1&guce_referrer=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuZ29vZ2xlLmNvbS8&guce_referrer_sig=AQAAAMgVlN89lunzvm1vmKfwOXAjKBo_MP_ErU432bF8wvjFftvvVeYGtTO4vVWnIWwR3lMQv22MOIG-ttTp-impT4Z7PG7GJ68HWD2zoFaimOjhcgOBK-EbDnecxq6a5vJePUZK1A9F_uE2dRKISOl81J2TlofXkiKAr8O8z88YqTFh "The site, which now has nearly 80,000 Twitter followers, is owned by Reilly O’Neal, a North Carolina political operative whose clients include failed Alabama Senate candidate Roy Moore, as well as Virginia Republican and Confederate monument defender Corey Stewart. Fritsch, a campaign consultant who has worked for many of the same candidates as O’Neal, doesn’t work for the site but appears in some of its biggest videos.

    "But the website’s lodestar is Howley, a 28-year-old former Breitbart News and Daily Caller reporter.

    Howley, a professed admirer of conspiracy peddler Alex Jones, has a long record of stunt journalism. As an assistant editor at The American Spectator, he infiltrated an Occupy Wall Street-linked group in Washington, D.C., during a 2011 protest and (unsuccessfully) led a charge of Occupy protesters into the National Air and Space Museum to protest a drone exhibit. In addition to promoting political candidates O’Neal champions, like Stewart or Paul Nehlen, a white nationalist Republican candidate for Congress in Wisconsin, Big League Politics embraces the kind of coverage that made Howley notorious."

    (d) Roy Moore Consultants’ New Project: A Conspiracy-Theorizing Pro-Trump News Site "O’Neal declined to provide details about how BLP came into possession of the Moore campaign Twitter account. But he himself has business ties to the failed Alabama candidate. Moore’s campaign paid two of O’Neal’s other companies more than $730,000, according to Federal Election Commission records. It paid another $130,000 in total to GOP consultant Noel Fritsch, a firm Fritsch runs, and another firm that lists his home in D.C. as its mailing address.

    Both Fritsch and O’Neal have collaborated on a number of political projects and, a source familiar with Big League Politics’ operations says both are now heavily involved with the website.

    Fritsch did not respond to requests for comment. Neither did Howley."

    (e) This New Right-Wing Site Falsely Blamed A UNC Professor For Heather Heyer's Death | HuffPost
    "This New Right-Wing Site Falsely Blamed A UNC Professor For Heather Heyer’s Death
    Patrick Howley’s Big League Politics is for people who find Breitbart too reasonable. And it’s just getting started.

    (f) Me? LOL!!!
     
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    I agree, and yet across the pond...somehow...
     
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    SugarOcean "Popcorn" = Eared corn w/o sunscreen

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    The Democrats in Congress oppose the pay raise initiative.
     
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    Perhaps because it is perceived as a threat to our grate orange leader.
     
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