Adam and eve

[Jahia El Ti]

how could Adam and Eve know the serpent was lying? If they had no knowledge of good and evil until they ate the fruit how could they know that? Like they couldn't have known it was wrong to listen to the serpent if they didn't know good and evil?

It is not a question of right and wrong.
It is a question of obedience and trust.

When you tell a 3 year old child not to stick their hand in the fire
or they will get burned.

And another older child comes along and tells them
you are lying and it will not burn them but make them feel good...

They will not know the difference...
the child will either obey you and trust you or
forsake your commandment when tempted by the other older child.

Adam and Eve were not children they were adults.
Now if you cannot understand this, I cannot help you.

 

[rational experiences]

One the base teaching one of any form.

The mass of any form Multi of the one bases.

Spirit bio base in life one same life X two reproducing one.

Not so in mass.

Humans reproduce into a future beyond self creator body. Humans as two.

Creation did not create into the future.

Science however compares self presence in relative ideals.

Said O God earth made a new future gas in space released out of stone mass.

The law stone released gas back into space as evolution development creating beyond its own form.

Heavens however not any future.

Science time shifts mass the law teaching.

Humans create their human future beyond is the creator. By sex.

God was never the creator. A human was.

One human is two humans. Two humans form one.

Two humans own one name human.

The teaching you were never Adam and Eve. You are one base self only human.

Human said children of God inferred.

O gods children base one gas spirit forming heavens mass.

Living in between a gas sacrifice and a holy clear form.

Gods children not seen. Gases are clear.

Balances even.
Day one balance
Night is one balance.

Day time experience 12
Night time experience 12.

Holy balances.

To exact the balance of two in God was changed in heavens told by a human living in observation was even changed by the cross in science + false add it ion.

You cannot add to an ion. An ion was or is. Was as it was changed. Is because it is present.

Even changed by maths zero female inferred womb space science into unequal as eve.

Man in science said hence I chose change by female zero womb maths.

Female womb maths changed even to eve.

+ On cross O God N is North point zero calculus.

Body of God was sacrificed by the cross. It shifted. Was moved and taken down and away.

Sin of man in science A alpha dam.

Adam. Said X calculus of two. To multiply.

Attached every nation on earth. Earth mass was abominated irradiated fall of man by Satan. Fallout.

A story what man in science caused.

Sin X K constant holes. Spirit of God disappeared out of earth mass.

 

[PearlSeeker]

Not a debate forum.
For those of you who are christians and believe in a literal interpetation of Adam and Eve...how could Adam and Eve know the serpent was lying? If they had no knowledge of good and evil until they ate the fruit how could they know that? Like they couldn't have known it was wrong to listen to the serpent if they didn't know good and evil?

I don't believe this story is literally true but I will answer anyway if you don't mind. I think Eve's decision was between trust and doubt in God's goodness (and consequently obedience and disobedience).

 

[Bree]

Not a debate forum.
For those of you who are christians and believe in a literal interpetation of Adam and Eve...how could Adam and Eve know the serpent was lying? If they had no knowledge of good and evil until they ate the fruit how could they know that? Like they couldn't have known it was wrong to listen to the serpent if they didn't know good and evil?

Here is a really good brief explanation about what the 'knowledge of good and evil' means in the account about Adam and Eve.
It comes from a Question from Readers to the Watchtower what is to be noted about Adam and Eve is that they did know it would be evil to eat from the tree because they were warned that death would be the consequences...death would be an evil they would want to avoid. So they did have knowledge and this is also seen from the fact that Eve was able to repeat the warning about death to the serpent when he questioned her.

from the article:
To know “good and evil” as Jehovah and his only-begotten Son know it would seem to mean to know good and evil for yourself, that is, you make the decision of what is good and what is evil, you judge what is right and what is wrong. Adam and Eve were no longer theocratic, no longer looked to God as the Universal Sovereign over all creatures, no longer accepted him as the one to determine right and wrong. They were going to determine for themselves what they were going to do on the earth, and not let God be the Supreme Arbiter.


When they chose to eat from the tree, they chose disobedience and in effect rejected their creator as the one to make decisions for them. They became 'like God' in the sense that they now decided for themselves what was good and bad for them.

Ask yourself....has independence from God led mankind to anything good? Does our world today prove that independence from God and us making the decisions has been beneficial? Are we better off out here in the wilderness or would you rather be exisitng in the Garden of Eden?

 

[Shadow Wolf]

After God created everything he stood back and pronounced it "good". The tree is a metaphor for man deciding for himself what is good and what is evil, as keeping their eyes shut before he fall was a metaphor for trusting God.

That was not a debate.

But Adam and Eve didn't know good and evil. It would be like an advanced calculus formula for someone who's barely mastered pre-algebra. You can explain all you want, this person isn't going to get it, understand it, or comprehend it. Or like a very young child with a very advanced reading level but a lack of understanding of what most of it really means due to a lack of adequate brain development.

It is not a question of right and wrong.
It is a question of obedience and trust.

When you tell a 3 year old child not to stick their hand in the fire
or they will get burned.

And another older child comes along and tells them
you are lying and it will not burn them but make them feel good...

They will not know the difference...
the child will either obey you and trust you or
forsake your commandment when tempted by the other older child.

Adam and Eve were not children they were adults.
Now if you cannot understand this, I cannot help you.

Children have a basic understanding of good and evil, and it's very basic with much to learn. And they will often still attempt to go near a fire because they may not have yet learned what "hot" signifies. If Adam and Eve did not know good and evil, how could they have know what the words signify? How could they know disobedience is bad if they didn't know what bad is?

 

[PearlSeeker]

After eating the fruit their eyes opened and they saw they were naked. What does this mean? They were seeing they were naked already before that but they were innocent - their sexual desire was without lust.