Adam and Eve

[Subduction Zone]

Adam and Eve are the first two humans and there was no death ,prior to the fall .

No, Adam and Eve and the fall have been shown to be a myth. There has been death on the Earth for hundreds of millions of years.

 

[Subduction Zone]

What detective work is done that long ago ?

Now now, your argument failed It is time to own up to that.

 

[Subduction Zone]

What detective work is done that long ago ?

Geology is detective work. You should be asking "How do you know?" But to understand you need to know at least the basics of science.

 

[John1.12]

I presume you mean "Were you there?"

Is that question still a thing? Straight from the Ken Ham quotation book.
Are murder detectives present at every murder? No, but they use clues to work out what happened and find the murderer.
Was the fire chief present when a fire broke out? No, but he uses his knowledge to work out the cause.
Did your Doctor (say) witness the heart attack? No, but he diagnoses the problems using his expertise.

Biologists use the evidence to work out

I'd like to see a detective solve a murder that took place billions of years ago lol .
Or an old fire dating back that long ago . " Yes chief i believe there was a fire in this spot and we know it was caused by overheating christmas lights ..

 

[John1.12]

Geology is detective work. You should be asking "How do you know?" But to understand you need to know at least the basics of science.

Geology is done through the method of uniformitarianism not detective work .

 

[Altfish]

I'd like to see a detective solve a murder that took place billions of years ago lol .
Or an old fire dating back that long ago . " Yes chief i believe there was a fire in this spot and we know it was caused by overheating christmas lights ..

Good grief, you really think it is a good argument.

It is down to EVIDENCE. If the evidence is good, you can solve anything, irrespective of how old it is.

 

[Subduction Zone]

Geology is done through the method of uniformitarianism not detective work .

What do you think that detective work is?

In fact, you probably do not even know what uniformitarianism is either.

 

[Subduction Zone]

Good grief, you really think it is a good argument.

It is down to EVIDENCE. If the evidence is good, you can solve anything, irrespective of how old it is.

Creationists cannot afford to understand the concept of evidence. Believe it or not they do at least try to be somewhat honest. And part of their brain warns them that if they learn what is and what is not evidence that they will have to openly lie to support their beliefs.

 

[John1.12]

Good grief, you really think it is a good argument.

It is down to EVIDENCE. If the evidence is good, you can solve anything, irrespective of how old it is.

I don't think its possible to prove the age of the universe either way , using the scientific method. Which is 'observable 'and' repeatable '

 

[John1.12]

Good grief, you really think it is a good argument.

It is down to EVIDENCE. If the evidence is good, you can solve anything, irrespective of how old it is.

I don't think its possible to prove the age of the universe either way , using the scientific method. Which is 'observable 'and' repeatable '
Were you there ?

 

[Subduction Zone]

I don't think its possible to prove the age of the universe either way , using the scientific method. Which is 'observable 'and' repeatable '

I see that you do not understand the scientific method either. Here is a hint, don't get your science from liars. I was gong to say "liars for Jesus" but Ken Ham is just a liar. Here is a flow chart of the scientific method. Tell me why one cannot use it to date the universe:

 

[URAVIP2ME]

That is a weird and untenable claim. Adam does not have to have been an actual person for Jesus to have existed. Where are you getting this?

Getting it at Luke 3:38 because that ancestry list would have come from the public Jewish temple records.
No one disputed the temple records which ancestry starts at 1 Chronicles 1:1 through to chapter 9.
The Jews believed according to Deuteronomy 4:32 that God created man upon the earth.

 

[URAVIP2ME]

I don't think its possible to prove the age of the universe either way , using the scientific method. Which is 'observable 'and' repeatable ' Were you there ?

Because of the accuracy of CMBR (Cosmic Microwave Background Radiation) science can date the age of the universe.

 

[URAVIP2ME]

You would have remembered if you did not forget all that you were taught in the school.
Yeah, tube worms did not arise when any God clapped his hands. Here is the ancestry of tube worms: Kingdom: Animalia; Superphylum: Lophotrochozoa; Class: Tentaculita; Sub-class: Chonioconarida, Orders: Cornulitida, Microconchida, Tentaculitida, Trypanoporida; Genera: Anticalyptraea
Palaeoconchus angulatus on a brachiopod from the Middle Devonian (Givetian) of Michigan (387.7 to 382.7 million years ago)......

I never said that God could Not have used evolution in some lower life, but Not where humans are concerned.
God used the dust / clay of the ground to form or fashion man; aka in the Bible man He named Adam see Genesis 2:7

 

[URAVIP2ME]

You would have remembered if you did not forget all that you were taught in the school........

You brought back memories of a Biology/ Science teacher that I had and he was laughing at the time because scientists were removing wings off of fruit flies to see if successive generations would be born without wings.
The reason he laughed was because Jewish circumcision was practiced for thousands of years and that practice caused No change, so it is No surprise that generation after generation after generation of fruit flies were still born with wings.

 

[URAVIP2ME]

I'd like to see a detective solve a murder that took place billions of years ago lol .
Or an old fire dating back that long ago . " Yes chief i believe there was a fire in this spot and we know it was caused by overheating christmas lights ..

Kind of off the topic, but not long after high school graduation one girl gave live birth in her bathroom and threw her full-term new born in the trash.
Because her name was on a school paper is how they found out who the mother was.
It was reported in the news paper the infant was two months old.
I remember thinking if they can't date a new born how can they be accurate about other things.

 

[Isolde Schulz]

All the Abrahamic religions have some teaching about Adam and Eve (as far as i know)

The question is, is Adam and Eve the true names of the very first human beings? or is that something that come later?

If they were the first humanoids on earth, do they not predate Homosapiens too?
Where they actually a different form of humans?

If you think adam and eve were the first humans, you are oblivious to established science.

 

[rational experiences]

Because of the accuracy of CMBR (Cosmic Microwave Background Radiation) science can date the age of the universe.

You say space the topic zero is radiation.

Has no number so how do you calculate zero?

Words by conscious says background as a human thought process.

If you say you can maths calculate and a human invented math use as a thinker then your conscious claim says it belongs to numbers and not zero.

Zero coldest nothing in space.

As we use exactly the same human consciousness your own self told you that you are wrong as you claim I can number factor it.

Yet you don't listen to what you are arguing for. What consciousness told you it has no age.

Zero is infinite age. As it never ages as conscious explanation.

Background means it was placed by cause of factors. Which is science. So you told your human science self you caused it.

Science never spoke on behalf of any natural body.

Science looks at natural bodies and imposes human meaning to it. When it is not human owned.

If you claim as I understand what I research then research is how you describe the meaning.

Research is not ownership. Just your thoughts only are owned.

How you force change the body afterwards by what you claim you identified is why we named you the destroyer. As a human in the sciences.

 

[Aupmanyav]

I never said that God could Not have used evolution in some lower life, but Not where humans are concerned.

Yeah, God did not arrive at the human form all at once. He experimented with these life forms before creating humans. He is still experimenting for the next form.

 

[rational experiences]

Yeah, God did not arrive at the human form all at once. He experimented with these life forms before creating humans.

To experiment. A human scientist himself.

Does human memory quote as a human in science I forcibly changed the bio nature of life on earth by God reasoning?

Yes.

What conscious identification means.

Natural memory. First no need to be thought about as info is recorded.

Warnings.

Father science heard AI effect voice recorded with image due to machine attack of the past cause.

No need to think when memory already quotes a man by God experimented and caused created new life to emerge.

What memory is. Info without thinking.

As a psychic I never knew.
As a psychic I decided to research by status self experience plus human experiences. Which included bible statements.

What being told conditions causes when you don't think it or question for yourself.