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Academics sign Letter on global threat to Democracy

Laika

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
The Guardian has reported that more than 80 professors and scholars, specialising in the history of fascism and authoritarianism, at universities around the world have signed a letter warning that democracy "is either withering or in full-scale collapse globally" and are urging ordinary people to take action. Here is the letter:

Regardless of the outcome of the United States’ election, democracy as we know it is already imperiled. However, it is not too late to turn the tide.

Whether Donald J. Trump is a fascist, a post-fascist populist, an autocrat, or just a bumbling opportunist, the danger to democracy did not arrive with his presidency and goes well beyond November 3rd, 2020.

While democracy appeared to be flourishing everywhere in the years following the end of the Cold War, today it seems to be withering or in full-scale collapse globally. As scholars of twentieth century authoritarian populism, fascism, and political extremism, we believe that unless we take immediate action, democracy as we know it will continue in its frightening regression, irrespective of who wins the American presidency in early November.

In contrast to the hollow proclamations of economic and political liberalism’s “inevitable” triumph over authoritarianism in all its iterations, studying the past demonstrates that democracy is extremely fragile and potentially temporary, requiring vigilance and protection. Scholars of race, colonialism, and imperialism have further deepened our perspectives by reminding us of how the myths of national “greatness” were and continue to be written on the backs of largely silenced, marginalized and oftentimes enslaved or unfree, “others.”

We study the conditions that have historically accompanied the rise of authoritarian and fascistic regimes. In nearly every case, we have observed how profound social, political, and economic disruptions, including the ravages of military conflicts, depressions, and the enormous pressures caused by globalization, deeply shook people’s confidence in democracy’s ability to adequately respond to their plights, or even provide basic forms of long-term security.

We have seen all of these patterns in our study of the past, and we recognize the signs of a crisis of democracy in today’s world as well. The Covid-19 pandemic has exposed profound inequalities of class and race across the globe. As the last four years have demonstrated, the temptation to take refuge in a figure of arrogant strength is now greater than ever.

To meet the challenge at hand, there are several things we must do.

We must boldly and unapologetically safeguard critical thinking based on evidence. This includes demonstrating the virtues of entertaining a wide array of positions and perspectives, and support, both in word and deed, for investigative journalism, science and the humanities, and freedom of the press. We need swift and tangible commitments from corporate media organizations and governments to tackle the dangers of misinformation and media concentration. We must encourage coalitions organized across differences of race, class, gender, religion and caste, while respecting the perspectives and experiences of others. We need to reveal and denounce any and all connections between those in power and those vigilante and militia forces using political violence to destabilize our democracies. Much like the active democratic movements across the globe from Nigeria to India, Belarus to Hong Kong, we must be prepared to defend pluralism and democracy against the growing dangers of communal violence and authoritarianism at the ballot box but, if necessary, also through non-violent protest in the streets. We must defend the integrity of the electoral process and ensure the widest possible voter turnouts, not just in this election but in every election large and small in all of our hometowns. And we must re-commit to a global conversation on support for democratic institutions, laws, and practices both within and between our respective countries. This includes directly confronting the unfettered greed that drives global inequality, which has unleashed geopolitical rivalries over access to resources, international migrations, and collapsed state sovereignties all over the world.

We need to turn away from the rule by entrenched elites and return to the rule of law. We must replace the politics of “internal enemies” with a politics of adversaries in a healthy, democratic marketplace of ideas. And above else, we need to work together to find ways to keep the light of democracy shining in our countries and all over the world. Because if we don’t, we will indeed face dark days ahead.

Here is the full letter with signatures for those interested: How to Keep the Lights On in Democracies: An Open Letter of Concern by Scholars of Authoritarianism - The New Fascism Syllabus

I felt sharing the letter on RF would be one step I can amplify their message. What are your thoughts on the subject? Is Democracy in crisis? Is it facing a full-scale collapse? Or will democratic ideals and institutions come back stronger, renewed and revived in the future?
 

stvdv

Veteran Member: I Share (not Debate) my POV
What are your thoughts on the subject? Is Democracy in crisis? Is it facing a full-scale collapse? Or will democratic ideals and institutions come back stronger, renewed and revived in the future?
It looks that Democracy is in crisis. I read about this a few days ago. I would not be surprised. On the other hand, it won't be easy to have all people accept to let go Democracy after having it for so many decades. So, they might try it, but in the end people will protest I think.
 

exchemist

Veteran Member
The Guardian has reported that more than 80 professors and scholars, specialising in the history of fascism and authoritarianism, at universities around the world have signed a letter warning that democracy "is either withering or in full-scale collapse globally" and are urging ordinary people to take action. Here is the letter:

Regardless of the outcome of the United States’ election, democracy as we know it is already imperiled. However, it is not too late to turn the tide.

Whether Donald J. Trump is a fascist, a post-fascist populist, an autocrat, or just a bumbling opportunist, the danger to democracy did not arrive with his presidency and goes well beyond November 3rd, 2020.

While democracy appeared to be flourishing everywhere in the years following the end of the Cold War, today it seems to be withering or in full-scale collapse globally. As scholars of twentieth century authoritarian populism, fascism, and political extremism, we believe that unless we take immediate action, democracy as we know it will continue in its frightening regression, irrespective of who wins the American presidency in early November.

In contrast to the hollow proclamations of economic and political liberalism’s “inevitable” triumph over authoritarianism in all its iterations, studying the past demonstrates that democracy is extremely fragile and potentially temporary, requiring vigilance and protection. Scholars of race, colonialism, and imperialism have further deepened our perspectives by reminding us of how the myths of national “greatness” were and continue to be written on the backs of largely silenced, marginalized and oftentimes enslaved or unfree, “others.”

We study the conditions that have historically accompanied the rise of authoritarian and fascistic regimes. In nearly every case, we have observed how profound social, political, and economic disruptions, including the ravages of military conflicts, depressions, and the enormous pressures caused by globalization, deeply shook people’s confidence in democracy’s ability to adequately respond to their plights, or even provide basic forms of long-term security.

We have seen all of these patterns in our study of the past, and we recognize the signs of a crisis of democracy in today’s world as well. The Covid-19 pandemic has exposed profound inequalities of class and race across the globe. As the last four years have demonstrated, the temptation to take refuge in a figure of arrogant strength is now greater than ever.

To meet the challenge at hand, there are several things we must do.

We must boldly and unapologetically safeguard critical thinking based on evidence. This includes demonstrating the virtues of entertaining a wide array of positions and perspectives, and support, both in word and deed, for investigative journalism, science and the humanities, and freedom of the press. We need swift and tangible commitments from corporate media organizations and governments to tackle the dangers of misinformation and media concentration. We must encourage coalitions organized across differences of race, class, gender, religion and caste, while respecting the perspectives and experiences of others. We need to reveal and denounce any and all connections between those in power and those vigilante and militia forces using political violence to destabilize our democracies. Much like the active democratic movements across the globe from Nigeria to India, Belarus to Hong Kong, we must be prepared to defend pluralism and democracy against the growing dangers of communal violence and authoritarianism at the ballot box but, if necessary, also through non-violent protest in the streets. We must defend the integrity of the electoral process and ensure the widest possible voter turnouts, not just in this election but in every election large and small in all of our hometowns. And we must re-commit to a global conversation on support for democratic institutions, laws, and practices both within and between our respective countries. This includes directly confronting the unfettered greed that drives global inequality, which has unleashed geopolitical rivalries over access to resources, international migrations, and collapsed state sovereignties all over the world.

We need to turn away from the rule by entrenched elites and return to the rule of law. We must replace the politics of “internal enemies” with a politics of adversaries in a healthy, democratic marketplace of ideas. And above else, we need to work together to find ways to keep the light of democracy shining in our countries and all over the world. Because if we don’t, we will indeed face dark days ahead.

Here is the full letter with signatures for those interested: How to Keep the Lights On in Democracies: An Open Letter of Concern by Scholars of Authoritarianism - The New Fascism Syllabus

I felt sharing the letter on RF would be one step I can amplify their message. What are your thoughts on the subject? Is Democracy in crisis? Is it facing a full-scale collapse? Or will democratic ideals and institutions come back stronger, renewed and revived in the future?
I don't think it is in crisis or collapse but I do think it is in danger, due to being undermined by the new populist Right (Trump, Johnson, Orban, Erdogan, Duterte, Bolsonaro).
 

Kenny

Face to face with my Father
Premium Member
We must boldly and unapologetically safeguard critical thinking based on evidence. This includes demonstrating the virtues of entertaining a wide array of positions and perspectives, and support, both in word and deed, for investigative journalism, science and the humanities, and freedom of the press. We need swift and tangible commitments from corporate media organizations and governments to tackle the dangers of misinformation and media concentration. We must encourage coalitions organized across differences of race, class, gender, religion and caste, while respecting the perspectives and experiences of others. We need to reveal and denounce any and all connections between those in power and those vigilante and militia forces using political violence to destabilize our democracies. Much like the active democratic movements across the globe from Nigeria to India, Belarus to Hong Kong, we must be prepared to defend pluralism and democracy against the growing dangers of communal violence and authoritarianism at the ballot box but, if necessary, also through non-violent protest in the streets. We must defend the integrity of the electoral process and ensure the widest possible voter turnouts, not just in this election but in every election large and small in all of our hometowns. And we must re-commit to a global conversation on support for democratic institutions, laws, and practices both within and between our respective countries. This includes directly confronting the unfettered greed that drives global inequality, which has unleashed geopolitical rivalries over access to resources, international migrations, and collapsed state sovereignties all over the world.

This is quite good.

We should defend the filibuster process in the Senate and return it back to 60 votes to stop it. We should maintain the integrity of our Republic through the keeping of the Electoral College. We must derfend this Republic Democracy through peaceful protest and stop violent protests immediately. We must keep free speech but enforce disinformation and have the return of investigative journalism. We must maintain critical thinking vs emotional tirades. We must prevent making the Supreme Court a political arm of Congress by preventing Court Stacking.

I agree.
 

amorphous_constellation

Well-Known Member
In my opinion, we needed a basic income when covid came in.. People get tribal when resources get scarce (ubi would also enable actual fair capitalism to occur, since everyone starts from a more similar foundation)
 

Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
The Guardian has reported that more than 80 professors and scholars, specialising in the history of fascism and authoritarianism, at universities around the world have signed a letter warning that democracy "is either withering or in full-scale collapse globally" and are urging ordinary people to take action. Here is the letter:

Regardless of the outcome of the United States’ election, democracy as we know it is already imperiled. However, it is not too late to turn the tide.

Whether Donald J. Trump is a fascist, a post-fascist populist, an autocrat, or just a bumbling opportunist, the danger to democracy did not arrive with his presidency and goes well beyond November 3rd, 2020.

While democracy appeared to be flourishing everywhere in the years following the end of the Cold War, today it seems to be withering or in full-scale collapse globally. As scholars of twentieth century authoritarian populism, fascism, and political extremism, we believe that unless we take immediate action, democracy as we know it will continue in its frightening regression, irrespective of who wins the American presidency in early November.

In contrast to the hollow proclamations of economic and political liberalism’s “inevitable” triumph over authoritarianism in all its iterations, studying the past demonstrates that democracy is extremely fragile and potentially temporary, requiring vigilance and protection. Scholars of race, colonialism, and imperialism have further deepened our perspectives by reminding us of how the myths of national “greatness” were and continue to be written on the backs of largely silenced, marginalized and oftentimes enslaved or unfree, “others.”

We study the conditions that have historically accompanied the rise of authoritarian and fascistic regimes. In nearly every case, we have observed how profound social, political, and economic disruptions, including the ravages of military conflicts, depressions, and the enormous pressures caused by globalization, deeply shook people’s confidence in democracy’s ability to adequately respond to their plights, or even provide basic forms of long-term security.

We have seen all of these patterns in our study of the past, and we recognize the signs of a crisis of democracy in today’s world as well. The Covid-19 pandemic has exposed profound inequalities of class and race across the globe. As the last four years have demonstrated, the temptation to take refuge in a figure of arrogant strength is now greater than ever.

To meet the challenge at hand, there are several things we must do.

We must boldly and unapologetically safeguard critical thinking based on evidence. This includes demonstrating the virtues of entertaining a wide array of positions and perspectives, and support, both in word and deed, for investigative journalism, science and the humanities, and freedom of the press. We need swift and tangible commitments from corporate media organizations and governments to tackle the dangers of misinformation and media concentration. We must encourage coalitions organized across differences of race, class, gender, religion and caste, while respecting the perspectives and experiences of others. We need to reveal and denounce any and all connections between those in power and those vigilante and militia forces using political violence to destabilize our democracies. Much like the active democratic movements across the globe from Nigeria to India, Belarus to Hong Kong, we must be prepared to defend pluralism and democracy against the growing dangers of communal violence and authoritarianism at the ballot box but, if necessary, also through non-violent protest in the streets. We must defend the integrity of the electoral process and ensure the widest possible voter turnouts, not just in this election but in every election large and small in all of our hometowns. And we must re-commit to a global conversation on support for democratic institutions, laws, and practices both within and between our respective countries. This includes directly confronting the unfettered greed that drives global inequality, which has unleashed geopolitical rivalries over access to resources, international migrations, and collapsed state sovereignties all over the world.

We need to turn away from the rule by entrenched elites and return to the rule of law. We must replace the politics of “internal enemies” with a politics of adversaries in a healthy, democratic marketplace of ideas. And above else, we need to work together to find ways to keep the light of democracy shining in our countries and all over the world. Because if we don’t, we will indeed face dark days ahead.

Here is the full letter with signatures for those interested: How to Keep the Lights On in Democracies: An Open Letter of Concern by Scholars of Authoritarianism - The New Fascism Syllabus

I felt sharing the letter on RF would be one step I can amplify their message. What are your thoughts on the subject? Is Democracy in crisis? Is it facing a full-scale collapse? Or will democratic ideals and institutions come back stronger, renewed and revived in the future?
They should get a mirror and take a good long look at themselves as well.
 

Brian2

Veteran Member
The Guardian has reported that more than 80 professors and scholars, specialising in the history of fascism and authoritarianism, at universities around the world have signed a letter warning that democracy "is either withering or in full-scale collapse globally" and are urging ordinary people to take action. Here is the letter:

Regardless of the outcome of the United States’ election, democracy as we know it is already imperiled. However, it is not too late to turn the tide.

Whether Donald J. Trump is a fascist, a post-fascist populist, an autocrat, or just a bumbling opportunist, the danger to democracy did not arrive with his presidency and goes well beyond November 3rd, 2020.

While democracy appeared to be flourishing everywhere in the years following the end of the Cold War, today it seems to be withering or in full-scale collapse globally. As scholars of twentieth century authoritarian populism, fascism, and political extremism, we believe that unless we take immediate action, democracy as we know it will continue in its frightening regression, irrespective of who wins the American presidency in early November.

In contrast to the hollow proclamations of economic and political liberalism’s “inevitable” triumph over authoritarianism in all its iterations, studying the past demonstrates that democracy is extremely fragile and potentially temporary, requiring vigilance and protection. Scholars of race, colonialism, and imperialism have further deepened our perspectives by reminding us of how the myths of national “greatness” were and continue to be written on the backs of largely silenced, marginalized and oftentimes enslaved or unfree, “others.”

We study the conditions that have historically accompanied the rise of authoritarian and fascistic regimes. In nearly every case, we have observed how profound social, political, and economic disruptions, including the ravages of military conflicts, depressions, and the enormous pressures caused by globalization, deeply shook people’s confidence in democracy’s ability to adequately respond to their plights, or even provide basic forms of long-term security.

We have seen all of these patterns in our study of the past, and we recognize the signs of a crisis of democracy in today’s world as well. The Covid-19 pandemic has exposed profound inequalities of class and race across the globe. As the last four years have demonstrated, the temptation to take refuge in a figure of arrogant strength is now greater than ever.

To meet the challenge at hand, there are several things we must do.

We must boldly and unapologetically safeguard critical thinking based on evidence. This includes demonstrating the virtues of entertaining a wide array of positions and perspectives, and support, both in word and deed, for investigative journalism, science and the humanities, and freedom of the press. We need swift and tangible commitments from corporate media organizations and governments to tackle the dangers of misinformation and media concentration. We must encourage coalitions organized across differences of race, class, gender, religion and caste, while respecting the perspectives and experiences of others. We need to reveal and denounce any and all connections between those in power and those vigilante and militia forces using political violence to destabilize our democracies. Much like the active democratic movements across the globe from Nigeria to India, Belarus to Hong Kong, we must be prepared to defend pluralism and democracy against the growing dangers of communal violence and authoritarianism at the ballot box but, if necessary, also through non-violent protest in the streets. We must defend the integrity of the electoral process and ensure the widest possible voter turnouts, not just in this election but in every election large and small in all of our hometowns. And we must re-commit to a global conversation on support for democratic institutions, laws, and practices both within and between our respective countries. This includes directly confronting the unfettered greed that drives global inequality, which has unleashed geopolitical rivalries over access to resources, international migrations, and collapsed state sovereignties all over the world.

We need to turn away from the rule by entrenched elites and return to the rule of law. We must replace the politics of “internal enemies” with a politics of adversaries in a healthy, democratic marketplace of ideas. And above else, we need to work together to find ways to keep the light of democracy shining in our countries and all over the world. Because if we don’t, we will indeed face dark days ahead.

Here is the full letter with signatures for those interested: How to Keep the Lights On in Democracies: An Open Letter of Concern by Scholars of Authoritarianism - The New Fascism Syllabus

I felt sharing the letter on RF would be one step I can amplify their message. What are your thoughts on the subject? Is Democracy in crisis? Is it facing a full-scale collapse? Or will democratic ideals and institutions come back stronger, renewed and revived in the future?

It has seemed for years now that the world was headed further to the right politically, and this through democracy. It seems to be a democratic direction and we all get numbed to the evils perpetrated by the right wing basically in the name of money and national security.
Unfortunately we find it hard to believe that our wonderful freedoms in the West could go just the same as they have in the recent past when seeming nice guys with big visions have taken control. We seem to trust people and the system far too much. I guess all it would take is a sweeping majority to one side of politics in an election, for some reason, and that side gets to make all the laws and take our countries into places we don't really want them to go.
 

Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
How does that opinion relate to the OP? What are the steps needed to defend democracy in your mind, assuming you think such a thing is needed and/or possible.
The very fact that the people one accuses are also the ones just as guilty, if not worse, of being themselves threats for a free nation of free people.

Its why I think they need to take a long hard look at themselves. That's the first step.
 

Brickjectivity

wind and rain touch not this brain
Staff member
Premium Member
'Critical thinking based on evidence' is important.

"We study the conditions that have historically accompanied the rise of authoritarian and fascistic regimes. In nearly every case, we have observed how profound social, political, and economic disruptions, including the ravages of military conflicts, depressions, and the enormous pressures caused by globalization, deeply shook people’s confidence in democracy’s ability to adequately respond to their plights, or even provide basic forms of long-term security. " Yes. People's confidence can be shaken.

"We need to turn away from the rule by entrenched elites and return to the rule of law..."
This lacks specifics. The only specific action they have recommended is voting out Pres. Trump. Other than that there are no remedies proposed for turning away from rule by entrenched elites. They also propose no criticisms for other academics or themselves, risk nothing, admit nothing, concede no error in the system of which they are a part. No, instead they credit themselves with critical thinking.

It is...eh...I don't know. I get that they believe if Pres. Trump wins a second term it will shake confidence in democracy around the world. That's what they think. The rest of these things they have stated seem like empty words. They don't share responsibility for what has happened, so they don't propose any changes for themselves. They don't mention how free speech is suppressed in universities for example or how universities are gouging the public. The marxism in universities is tacitly unrelated to the expansion of fascism. They don't rebuke universities for squelching speech though it is common. The letter is all about one thing that holds them and theirs in absolutely no light at all. Then they use the word 'Elites'. I'm feeling irony but point taken about the world's lack of confidence in democracy.
 

Brian2

Veteran Member
The very fact that the people one accuses are also the ones just as guilty, if not worse, of being themselves threats for a free nation of free people.

Its why I think they need to take a long hard look at themselves. That's the first step.

I did not notice any accusations in the article, just observations.
 

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
This is quite good.

We should defend the filibuster process in the Senate and return it back to 60 votes to stop it. We should maintain the integrity of our Republic through the keeping of the Electoral College. We must derfend this Republic Democracy through peaceful protest and stop violent protests immediately. We must keep free speech but enforce disinformation and have the return of investigative journalism. We must maintain critical thinking vs emotional tirades. We must prevent making the Supreme Court a political arm of Congress by preventing Court Stacking.

I agree.
How does defending the electoral college defend our Republic? If anything it harms it by making it less representative. Land cannot vote. Why should voters in Wyoming have more per capita voting power for President than those that live in California or Texas?
 

Kenny

Face to face with my Father
Premium Member
How does defending the electoral college defend our Republic? If anything it harms it by making it less representative. Land cannot vote. Why should voters in Wyoming have more per capita voting power for President than those that live in California or Texas?
For that very reason that you just mentioned. As Joseph Vasquez put it:

"If the constituency truly understood the electoral college, they would realize that if we went strictly by the popular vote, states like California and New York would essentially be choosing our presidents every single election cycle, completely voiding out the voices of the less populated states."
 

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
For that very reason that you just mentioned. As Joseph Vasquez put it:

"If the constituency truly understood the electoral college, they would realize that if we went strictly by the popular vote, states like California and New York would essentially be choosing our presidents every single election cycle, completely voiding out the voices of the less populated states."
That is a silly and ignorant claim on his part. Neither state s by any means monolithic in their voting. It is merely a scare mongering technique and it appears to have worked.
 

Kenny

Face to face with my Father
Premium Member
That is a silly and ignorant claim on his part. Neither state s by any means monolithic in their voting. It is merely a scare mongering technique and it appears to have worked.
No... that is exactly why it was created.
 
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