NewGuyOnTheBlock
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Absurdity of Noah's Ark Story
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Skwim
Veteran Member
Are you implying god's Flood Story is absurd? That he would deliberately try to pass off a myth as truth, hoping that people like Ken Ham and Kent Hovind would be so stupid as to believe it and try to deceive god's followers? That god himself would be equally as stupid to do such a thing?
In any case:
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In any case:
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Srivijaya
Active Member
You should read the original source material, it's very interesting:
Utnapishtim - Wikipedia
Utnapishtim - Wikipedia
Subduction Zone
Veteran Member
I always liked this version:
mikkel_the_dane
My own religion
You could start here:
Unitarian Universalist Association
Unitarian Universalists have diverse and inclusive beliefs
Unitarian Universalism's Seven Principles
All religious humans are fundamentalists Christians. No, wait, all religious humans are fundamentalists theists. No, wait.
Give it up, we are as diverse as non-religious humans.
Deal with us as individuals and not the Other.
Unitarian Universalist Association
Unitarian Universalists have diverse and inclusive beliefs
Unitarian Universalism's Seven Principles
All religious humans are fundamentalists Christians. No, wait, all religious humans are fundamentalists theists. No, wait.
Give it up, we are as diverse as non-religious humans.
Deal with us as individuals and not the Other.
Subduction Zone
Veteran Member
What does this have to do with the OP or the topic of the thread? No one said or even implied that all Christians have this crazy belief.
mikkel_the_dane
My own religion
This thread is in science and religion. Not science and some specific version of understanding of a limited group of religions.
BTW it is not crazy. It is crazy to you. You have no evidence for it being crazy. Crazy is inter-subjective and cultural. Now science can study and label human behavior, but that is just a label.
Learn the limits of evidence. please.
TagliatelliMonster
Veteran Member
It concerns the Noah story. That in itself already severely narrows it down to less then 1% of all religions.
Stop complaining for the sake of complaining.
Yes it is.
Or anyone else with some knowledge on physics, biology, geology and boat building.
Sure there is evidence: Physics, biology, geology and boat building.
I'm pretty sure it's okay in all cultures to call believing crazy things "crazy".
It can also study the world and conclude it is 110% incompatible with certain bronze age claims about history.
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Not sure what you are referring to, but I'm pretty sure it's okay to use physical evidence to disprove claims about the physical world.
Subduction Zone
Veteran Member
Yes, you got one thing right. This is in the science and religion part I the forum. Everything else you claimed is wrong.
Try again.
mikkel_the_dane
My own religion
Different culture have different views of "crazy", so no. In some culture is possession of evil spirit and not crazy. So no, no all culture have the same notion of "crazy". In at least one other culture crazy people are holy.
Your narrow own culture is showing.
mikkel_the_dane
My own religion
So crazy in not a cultural word. It is actually like gravity, right?
TagliatelliMonster
Veteran Member
Yeah, in crazy cultures.
Your compulsive argue-the-meaning-of-words-at-all-times disorder is showing. Again.
Subduction Zone
Veteran Member
Learn how to debate and we can have a discussion. Otherwise you only get corrections.
mikkel_the_dane
My own religion
And your apparent inability to understand that you are a specif product of nature, nurture and culture and thus we have human diversity. To me some variants of western culture are delusional and that is not just the religious ones. But that is me and that is subjective.
No, you - you deal in objective facts, right? There are objectively as a part of objective reality crazy cultures, right? Or is it subjective and only in your mind?
Subduction Zone
Veteran Member
No, we understand that. People just tire of your bull**** rather quickly.
Darkforbid
Well-Known Member
What taking into account the evidence available at the time is absurd about the Ark story?
mikkel_the_dane
My own religion
I have learned to be precise. E.g. there is no positive evidence or proof of gods.
Now you give evidence for crazy beliefs or it is just subjective?
I know crazy beliefs are everyday talk, but I want evidence. I have learned that from, yes, guess who? As least some atheists in part.
We can't just talk about God without evidence. So we just can just talk about crazy beliefs without evidence! Or can we?
Subduction Zone
Veteran Member
The writers may have had an excuse for their ignorance. Modern man does not. It appears that you do not understand that the thread is about those that still claim that it is real.
mikkel_the_dane
My own religion
Sorry, then don't ask for evidence anymore and I will do the same.
Your culture is not that unique.
Subduction Zone
Veteran Member
Nope, you have not learned that.I have learned to be precise. E.g. there is no positive evidence or proof of gods.
Now you give evidence for crazy beliefs or it is just subjective?
I know crazy beliefs are everyday talk, but I want evidence. I have learned that from, yes, guess who? As least some atheists in part.
We can't just talk about God without evidence. So we just can just talk about crazy beliefs without evidence! Or can we?
No excuses. If you want evidence you should be able to tell me why there is none for the flood.