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Abrahamics Only: Genesis 1:28-30 - Father Adam's GOD given Mission: The Glorious Commandment

Discussion in 'Same Faith Debates' started by Yahcubs777, Mar 20, 2021.

  1. Yahcubs777

    Yahcubs777 Active Member

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    Genesis 1:28-30

    28 And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth.

    29 And God said, Behold, I have given you every herb bearing seed, which is upon the face of all the earth, and every tree, in the which is the fruit of a tree yielding seed; to you it shall be for meat.

    30 And to every beast of the earth, and to every fowl of the air, and to every thing that creepeth upon the earth, wherein there is life, I have given every green herb for meat: and it was so.

    Let us take a look into these three verses. Notice in Verse 29, GOD said:

    29 And God said, Behold, I have given you every herb bearing seed, which is upon the face of all the earth, and every tree, in the which is the fruit of a tree yielding seed; to you it shall be for meat.
    yet Genesis 2:16-17 reads:

    16 And the Lord God commanded the man, saying, Of every tree of the garden thou mayest freely eat:

    17 But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die.

    How can these two be interlocked?

    It is easy to say that GOD can do anything, or HE didn't mean that tree, but it only shows a lack of understanding of the Most Holy Character of GOD. GOD cannot lie. If Genesis 1:29 is true, how does it agree with Genesis 2:16-17?

    GOD is not double tongued, HE cannot say something that was not quite true. All HIS Words are true 100%. They are Perfect. So how can these two be interlocked?

    Now to move on to the topic:

    Genesis 1:28

    And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth.

    Here is where Father Adam received his mission. Was this mission affected by the fall of Man?

    Looking at what was said, and how we are in the earth today, from your own understanding, was this mission cancelled, or affected by the fall of Man?

    Let us discuss this seriously, as this is a serious topic.

    1. How do Genesis 1:29 and 2:16-17 agree with each other?
    2. How was the mission that GOD gave Adam to complete, affected by the fall?

    Thank you for all your contributions.
     
  2. Brian2

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    Genesis 1 is more general than Genesis 2, which gives more detail. The not eating from the tree of knowledge of good and evil just affected Adam and Eve and was just told to them. Nobody can get to it now. Genesis 1:29 applies to all people now.
    We have probably filled the earth enough with humans now.
    We certainly have dominion over life on the earth but our fall means that many of us want to keep exploiting nature instead of taking care of it for everyone for the future.
    The whole economic system goes in the direction of exploitation and it needs wise Government to stop this and hold back human greed.
    Unfortunately many Governments also want economic progress over environmental protection and if that is not given to the people that Government gets kicked out.
    Do we have to suffer to realise what we are doing? It is coming to that in the world.
     
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    HE the GOD is only speaking to Father Adam. HE isn't speaking to everyone.
    Genesis 1 is very detailed. Are you suggesting that we should not take Genesis 1 and just go with Genesis 2?
     
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    Genesis 1 is detailed enough but is no scientific journal. In it God is speaking to everyone. In Genesis 2 God is speaking only to Adam.
    Genesis 1 tells us what God did when He made the created things and most of Genesis 2 narrows the focus down to humanity and when and how He made and then created us humans and what He did for them and what He told them and why He did certain things.
     
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    No HE isn't. Only Adam had been made manifest. Scientific? The Bible is Spiritual. GOD is not speaking to everyone. GOD speaks to HIS son only, which is Adam at that time. Even in Genesis 3, it was GOD speaking to Adam and then Adam telling the serpent and Mother Eve what GOD had said even if they didn't write it that way. And the Proof is: How did Mother Eve know she shouldn't eat from a certain tree? That command came before her physical Manifestation. Because Father Adam told her.
     
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    Genesis is God telling everyone what happened back then. It is not God speaking to Adam. It may be what God told Adam but it does not say that. If God tells something to Adam in Genesis then the text tells us that.
    Genesis 3 tells us that God asked Eve things and told Eve things. If you believe that God told Adam about eating the fruit then why don't you believe what it says about God asking and telling Eve things?
     
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    GOD is the same yesterday today and forever. When Abraham was in the earth did GOD speak directly to anyone else? When Noah was in the earth did GOD speak directly to anyone else? When Moses was in the earth did GOD speak directly to anyone else? No, because GOD respects rank. Father Adam is higher in rank as the Son of GOD than Mother Eve who was birthed by Adam. Its amazing how ignorant people choose to be.

    Male and female HE created HE them. Speaking only of Adam and Eve. And Mother Eve was not even made Manifest yet. But ofc you refuse to respect that because it would prove the fall did not take away from the mission given to Adam at all. And Adam was the only person that mission was given to.
     
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    Genesis 1 tells the whole creation story. Genesis to goes into detail about humans. Of course Eve was created on day 6 of Genesis 1 just as Adam was. Genesis 2 also shows us that God spoke directly to Eve and to Adam and to the serpent. Why do you deny those things?
    God did not seem to worry about your higher rank idea and that He could only speak to Adam. It is your idea but it was not what the Bible tells us God did.
     
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    Genesis 2 is not a rerun or closer look into Genesis 1.
     
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    It certainly is not a second creation story. It just tells us about what God did when He made and created humans. It is a closer look at Genesis 1 in relation to humans.
     
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    It isnt. I will ask you one question before i explain myself. Who was GOD talking to in Genesis 1:26?
     
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    Since God is the only one involved in the creation and God is a Trinity then it could be the Father talking to the Son and Holy Spirit.
     
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    Makes no sense. GOD doesn't talk to HIMSELF... Tell me the image of the Most Holy Spirit. Tell me the image of GOD the father. Both are invisible. GOD the Son is the Express image of the invisible GOD. GOD the Father, GOD the Son, GOD the Most Holy Spirit is one GOD. This is what shows that christians are far from having any understanding at all. GOD the Father is GOD in HIS capital size. GOD the Son proceeds from HIMSELF, Spirit from Spirit, Body from Body when HE wants to enter into a world or planet; celestial or sub-celestial, or terrestrial, that HE formed and hung on air. GOD the Most Holy Spirit is the GOD when HE proceeds from HIMSELF as HIS Most Holy Spirit state, this is HIS omnipresent state.

    And if you refuse to see this as a proof, tell me what work each of them did in that making of the body of Man. It doesn't say does it. We know it was the Most Holy Spirit of GOD who hovered over the waters of the deep. So what work was GOD the Most Holy Spirit, and GOD the Son doing in that making of the body with GOD the Father?
     
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    There's two different places, one is the Earth ( Genesis 1.28.30) the other is Paradise, the specific tree is in Paradise.

    This is part of destiny.
    Everything was already decided.


    He was talking to the Angels (that's what we have in the Quran)
     
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    Paradise in question is the heavens world for Mankind, Eden. Thank you. Finally someone has seen this.



    Angels are not in the image and after the likeness of GOD.
     
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