About a god existing....or not

[We Never Know]

Joe Bob believes in a god, goes to church regularly, says his prayers, lives his own life as if heaven and hell exist and wants to go to heaven.

Jim Bob doesn't believe in a god, doesn't go to church, takes life day by day, and lives his own life as when I die its all over because there is no heaven or hell.

Who's right? Do we even know?
Why does either of them living their own life bother anyone?

 

[Trailblazer]

Joe Bob believes in a god, goes to church regularly, says his prayers, lives his own life as if heaven and hell exist and wants to go to heaven.

Jim Bob doesn't believe in a god, doesn't go to church, takes life day by day, and lives his own life as when I die its all over because there is no heaven or hell.

Who's right? Do we even know?
Why does either of them living their own life bother anyone?

I agree with Joe Bob but there is no way to prove I am right....

I believe that Joe Bob and Jim Bob should both be free to live however they want to live.
In my religion that has been called BEAUTY AND HARMONY IN DIVERSITY.

 

[Viker]

Who's right?

Since no one can honestly claim they know, neither are wrong.

Do we even know?

No one has been able to demonstrate they know for sure.

Why does either of them living their own life bother anyone?

Unhealthy egos feed from antagonism.

 

[We Never Know]

Since no one can honestly claim they know, neither are wrong.

No one has been able to demonstrate they know for sure.

Unhealthy egos feed from antagonism.

Its pretty much like Joe saying he believes blue is the prettiest color but John says BS, red is the prettiest color.

Isn't it up to the individual?

 

[Viker]

Its pretty much like Joe saying he believes blue is the prettiest color but John says BS, red is the prettiest color.

Isn't it up to the individual?

That's all that is left there...up to the individual.

 

[Kooky]

Why does either of them living their own life bother anyone?

It doesn't. What usually bothers people is when others live their lives differently in overt, visible ways.

 

[Twilight Hue]

Joe Bob believes in a god, goes to church regularly, says his prayers, lives his own life as if heaven and hell exist and wants to go to heaven.

Jim Bob doesn't believe in a god, doesn't go to church, takes life day by day, and lives his own life as when I die its all over because there is no heaven or hell.

Who's right? Do we even know?
Why does either of them living their own life bother anyone?

It's pretty straightforward.

God is a mental concept.

Wouldn't it be clear after waiting thousands and thousands of years, that if there was actually a god or gods, a god would be by now well known already throughout the course of time? Living in the real world outside the imagination?

Yet there isn't save for active imaginations. I would say the shelf life for proving a god is well past its expiration date.

 

[PureX]

Joe Bob believes in a god, goes to church regularly, says his prayers, lives his own life as if heaven and hell exist and wants to go to heaven.

Jim Bob doesn't believe in a god, doesn't go to church, takes life day by day, and lives his own life as when I die its all over because there is no heaven or hell.

Who's right? Do we even know?
Why does either of them living their own life bother anyone?

Both have an ego that exists to defend their conception of themselves and of reality from dissolution. So unless they learn how to control their egos and reign it in to an appropriate and reasonable degree, they will end up arguing with each other over who's view of themselves and reality is "right". Even though neither of them can possibly know if they are right or wrong.

 

[Audie]

Both have an ego that exists to defend their conception of themselves and of reality from dissolution. So unless they learn how to control their egos and reign it in to an appropriate and reasonable degree, they will end up arguing with each other over who's view of themselves and reality is "right". Even though neither of them can possible know if they are right or wrong.

" They" might even keep starting threads
to stir the pot.

 

[Spirit of Light]

Joe Bob believes in a god, goes to church regularly, says his prayers, lives his own life as if heaven and hell exist and wants to go to heaven.

Jim Bob doesn't believe in a god, doesn't go to church, takes life day by day, and lives his own life as when I die its all over because there is no heaven or hell.

Who's right? Do we even know?
Why does either of them living their own life bother anyone?

Wahdat-ul-Wujood (Unity of Being) essentially states that the only truth within the universe is God, and that all things exist within God only.

So even as human one are a part of God
In my understanding

 

[Audie]

Wahdat-ul-Wujood (Unity of Being) essentially states that the only truth within the universe is God, and that all things exist within God only.

So even as human one are a part of God
In my understanding

What some mystic "states" and what is real are apt to be quite different.

 

[mikkel_the_dane]

What some mystic "states" and what is real are apt to be quite different.

Well, "real" is like God, it has no objective referent. You can't see God or real. They are both mystic "states" in the mind and only works for those, who believe in them. I don't believe in either.

 

[Hanne]

neither are wrong.

there is but one truth, Viker.

 

[Audie]

there is but one truth, Viker.

Lets hear it

 

[Hanne]

Lets hear it

We as Christians believe Jesus is truth.

 

[Twilight Hue]

" They" might even keep starting threads
to stir the pot.

General Religious Debates will do that. ;0]

 

[Twilight Hue]

We as Christians believe Jesus is truth.

I find belief will only carry you so far.

 

[George-ananda]

Why does either of them living their own life bother anyone?

I think most people allow them to live their own lives as long as they are not causing harm to others.

Now if they choose to discuss religion and spiritual topics with me, I'm in.

 

[We Never Know]

" They" might even keep starting threads
to stir the pot.

I don't know why "they" would even discuss such things. Especially in a place called religiius forums

 

[Audie]

We as Christians believe Jesus is truth.

First stated as fact now as belief.