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a true believer of Christ...?

a true believer of Christ doesn't smoke,drink,have sex,watch porn and masterbate!!!!i hear thats the only way to get saved becuase its all the work of the devil does anyone agree?
 

Saint Frankenstein

Wanderer From Afar
Premium Member
No, that's ridiculous. Christ is more concerned about how you treat others, especially if we show love, compassion, forgiveness and mercy to others. Christ Himself drank wine, for one.
 

Paleo

Primitivism and chill
No. For one thing belief and action are two different things also Jesus drank wine.
 

jeager106

Learning more about Jehovah.
Premium Member
No that's a silly conclusion that carries what might be sinful to an extreme.
 

SpeaksForTheTrees

Well-Known Member
a true believer of Christ doesn't smoke,drink,have sex,watch porn and masterbate!!!!i hear thats the only way to get saved becuase its all the work of the devil does anyone agree?
Christ died on the cross so Christians can party on forever without worrying about sin , is your obligation to do those things in Gods face ?. He died for nothing if you didnt ?.
Not to be taken to literally imho , the only requirement was to love each other .
 

ronandcarol

Member
Premium Member
a true believer of Christ doesn't smoke,drink,have sex,watch porn and masterbate!!!!i hear thats the only way to get saved becuase its all the work of the devil does anyone agree?
It sounds like you are describing a sinless person. You won't find one in this life. We are all sinners and desperately need a savior. Even after we have been forgiven and redeemed, we can and will fall from time to time, that is how us humans exist in this fallen world. The closer we keep ourselves to Jesus through His Word and with prayer, the closer we will become like Him with the help of the Holy Spirit.

ronandcarol
 

Windwalker

Veteran Member
Premium Member
a true believer of Christ doesn't smoke,drink,have sex,watch porn and masterbate!!!!i hear thats the only way to get saved becuase its all the work of the devil does anyone agree?
So, you think humans should not have sex? How would any of us be alive then? BTW, if you are saying doing unhealthy things such as smoking should be considered a sin, then why not add eating at McDonalds or having a snickers bar to that list? Why not add driving a car to it, since a car pollutes the earth? Why not just basically add living to that list, since the nature of survival itself brings harm to others?

I find it interesting how cultural taboos is what God is concerned about. I believe these are nothing more than your ideas of what is bad and have God saying they are for you so you stop doing them. Why not just choose to not do them if that's what you want?
 

sandycreekboy

New Member
a true believer of Christ doesn't smoke,drink,have sex,watch porn and masterbate!!!!i hear thats the only way to get saved becuase its all the work of the devil does anyone agree?
no i dont a true believer in Christ has the fruits of the spirit in them and it shows in their lives but they also have the old man which they are constantly waring with ..but a couple of those things shouldnt even be on the list drinking for one , Jesus drank , masturbation there is no prohibition on masturbating itself only the thoughts that accompany most masturbating
also there is no list of do and donts that qualify a christian and there are no donts that disqualify someone from being a christian when it comes to regular things we encounter every day
 

Didachist

Member
no i dont a true believer in Christ has the fruits of the spirit in them and it shows in their lives but they also have the old man which they are constantly waring with ..but a couple of those things shouldnt even be on the list drinking for one , Jesus drank , masturbation there is no prohibition on masturbating itself only the thoughts that accompany most masturbating
also there is no list of do and donts that qualify a christian and there are no donts that disqualify someone from being a christian when it comes to regular things we encounter every day


while much of what you said is sound, the passage on masturbation is wrong

1 Corinthians 6:18 “Flee from sexual immorality. All other sins a man commits are outside his body, but he who sins sexually sins against his own body.”
 
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