A Trophy Hunt

[Revoltingest]

What becomes of the carcasses can be objectively observed.

True dat.
What was done that you object to?

 

[pearl]

I was hoping for some actual thought

Would make for a good movie, but I think it's already been done.

 

[Revoltingest]

Why not hunt humans for trophies?

It is done.
But you must join the military or police to do it legally.

Caution: This video shows graphic violence.
Officer Brailsford executes Daniel Shaver.

 

[JustGeorge]

Africa is not just where I live it's my home. Take the journey with me!!!"

Ah, I can just imagine how well loved this comment would be by all the Africans I've shared space with...

I can almost hear my old friend saying "this idiot is why people ask us if we have giraffes running around downtown". (Obviously, this lady took care of that.)

Lets continue to give the world an unrealistic idea of what living in Africa is really like.

 

[Aštra’el]

And why does she want to cut out its heart and post on social media a photograph of herself holding it? Even if one accepts that it is OK to trophy hunt, what does she hope she is communicating with such an image? Who would be positively impressed by seeing it?

I am. The woman slew the beast and held high it’s still beating heart whilst drenched in blood. That is the ideal woman.

 

[Audie]

Is it?
Unless the sociopath does something wrong,
it's just another way for humans to be. Not
everyone is neurotypical. Some of us are
autistic (great differences on that spectrum),
some are sociopaths, psychopaths, empathy
challenged, geniuses, slow witted, tomboys,
& weepy girly men.
All are fine in my book, so long as they don't
commit crimes or other wrongs. Hunting is
simply not a wrong IMO.

Ok SOME behaviour is not nice.

 

[Revoltingest]

Ok SOME behaviour is not nice.

All kinds of people have to rein in their behavior.
Even the most normal of us are capable of wrongful
violence when angered...or when conditioned to it.

Of course, there's a question of what "normal" is.
I view it as what typically passes for it. A low bar
indeed, eh.

 

[Father Heathen]

No, i am not.
The complaint was about the ethics
of sport hunting based on the persons motive.

Eating lobsters is done just for sensory gratification. Boil it alive, for pleasure.
NOT "sustenance", which you falsely introduced. Likewise the " endanged species"
bit.
There is no bright line distinction between sport and trophy hunting.
Killing endangered species is a criminal act
and quite a different topic.

If you have a meaningful comment on the
ethics of hunting, relationship of ethics and motives, let"s hear it.

I don't see much distinction between sport and trophy hunting, either?
If the animal isn't endangered, effort was made to minimize suffering, and the carcass becomes food then no big deal. It's the killing something to use its body for a photo op prop and it's body parts as decor that bothers me.
I don't condone the boiling thing, either. I've seen chefs demonstrate a quick cut down the center of the head - causing instant death - right before tossing them in the pot.

 

[Father Heathen]

Is it?
Unless the sociopath does something wrong,
it's just another way for humans to be. Not
everyone is neurotypical. Some of us are
autistic (great differences on that spectrum),
some are sociopaths, psychopaths, empathy
challenged, geniuses, slow witted, tomboys,
& weepy girly men.
All are fine in my book, so long as they don't
commit crimes or other wrongs. Hunting is
simply not a wrong IMO.

To be fair she did say behavior; under which detrimental actions would fall.

 

[Father Heathen]

True dat.
What was done that you object to?

I suppose it would be a case by case basis; What was killed, why it was killed, how it was killed, and what was done with it afterwards.

 

[Revoltingest]

To be fair she did say behavior; under which detrimental actions would fall.

Not all sociopathic behavior is wrongful.
It could even enable the most moral behavior
in evaluating life & death situation reactions,
eg, The Lifeboat Game, how soon to allow
driverless cars on the road, medical service
resource allocation in times of shortages.

 

[Secret Chief]

Merelize van der Merwe has killed up to 500 animals including lions, leopards and elephants.

Lion. Status: Endangered.
Leopard. Status: Critically Endangered.
African Savanna Elephant. Status: Endangered.
Giraffe. Status: Vulnerable. (Estimated numbers: 117,000)

 

[Audie]

Lion. Status: Endangered.
Leopard. Status: Critically Endangered.
African Savanna Elephant. Status: Endangered.
Giraffe. Status: Vulnerable. (Estimated numbers: 117,000)

Going from the specific to the general
wont always work well.
Some populations of leopards are in
extreme danger, others not.
Same with lions.
The famous giraffe in the story was
killing other giraffes, and not needed
for breeding.

Elephants do a lot of damage, and kill people.
Bull elephants are not all needed for breeding.

What do you do with an elephant that has started killing rhinos?

Wildlife management does not single -answer solutions, especially not one based on emotion.

 

[Secret Chief]

Some populations of leopards are in
extreme danger, others not.

So is there a point at which you would be concerned? Why do you think conservation efforts are underway now?

The famous giraffe in the story was
killing other giraffes, and not needed
for breeding.

So what? That's the natural world. Are you needed for breeding?

Elephants do a lot of damage, and kill people.

So ways need to be found to keep the two species apart; difficult given the ongoing encroachment onto their habitat.

Bull elephants are not all needed for breeding.

So what? It's OK to kill anything that isn't needed (by whom?) for breeding?

What do you do with an elephant that has started killing rhinos?

Nothing, unless it has been caused by humans. That's the natural world. Oh look, that great white shark is killing squid, let's shoot it.

 

[We Never Know]

It is done.
But you must join the military or police to do it legally.

Caution: This video shows graphic violence.
Officer Brailsford executes Daniel Shaver.

Been there done that. Have several trophies on my wall

 

[metis]

Merelize van der Merwe has killed up to 500 animals including lions, leopards and elephants.

For the curious, she is proudly displaying the heart. Awesome huh?

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Why does the word "sick" come to mind?

 

[Revoltingest]

Been there done that. Have several trophies on my wall

Do you collect fingers, heads, skin, or something creepier?

 

[We Never Know]

And why does she want to cut out its heart and post on social media a photograph of herself holding it? Even if one accepts that it is OK to trophy hunt, what does she hope she is communicating with such an image? Who would be positively impressed by seeing it?

Ego! Same reason she trophy hunts.

 

[Audie]

So is there a point at which you would be concerned? Why do you think conservation efforts are underway now?



So what? That's the natural world. Are you needed for breeding?



So ways need to be found to keep the two species apart; difficult given the ongoing encroachment onto their habitat.



So what? It's OK to kill anything that isn't needed (by whom?) for breeding?



Nothing, unless it has been caused by humans. That's the natural world. Oh look, that great white shark is killing squid, let's shoot it.

That was, i hope, unworthy of you.
Its certainly unworthy of an answer.

Eta
Ok, @ we never know, ya got me....what's funny?

 

[Secret Chief]

Why does the word "sick" come to mind?

Because she is.