A thing I am trying with God recently.With out of body experiences

[Frank Goad]

I want to pray to God to show me the difference between a literal out of body experience.And an out of body experience that is a vision.So he can show me the difference between the two.And if only one is real.Or both. I think God will answer me because of Luke 11:9-10

 

[Kenny]

I want to pray to God to show me the difference between a literal out of body experience.And an out of body experience that is a vision.So he can show me the difference between the two.And if only one is real.Or both. I think God will answer me because of Luke 11:9-10

I don't think He will... (but He doesn't have to follow my thought)

1 John 5:14-16 King James Version (KJV)
14 And this is the confidence that we have in him, that, if we ask any thing according to his will, he heareth us:
15 And if we know that he hear us, whatsoever we ask, we know that we have the petitions that we desired of him.

I find nothing where what you are asking is "according to his will"

 

[Frank Goad]

I want to pray to God to show me the difference between a literal out of body experience.And an out of body experience that is a vision.So he can show me the difference between the two.And if only one is real.Or both. I think God will answer me because of Luke 11:9-10

I don't think He will... (but He doesn't have to follow my thought)

1 John 5:14-16 King James Version (KJV)
14 And this is the confidence that we have in him, that, if we ask any thing according to his will, he heareth us:
15 And if we know that he hear us, whatsoever we ask, we know that we have the petitions that we desired of him.

I find nothing where what you are asking is "according to his will"

I just want to know if an out of body experience is a vision or literal.Or both.Why wouldn't God want me to know the answer?

 

[Frank Goad]

In 2 Corinthians 12:1-4.Paul talks about his out of body experience being a vision in verse 1.And in verses 2-4 it sounds like he literally might be out of body.I just want God to clear it up for me.

 

[Kenny]

I just want to know if an out of body experience is a vision or literal.Or both.Why wouldn't God want me to know the answer?

If it was God, you would have known by now. IMO

A vision can be a word of knowledge or a word of wisdom. The answer of "is it of God" isn't as hard as one thinks. It can usually be determined by simply judging what we saw or heard by the word of God.

Even Paul said, "Whether in the body or out of the body, I do not know". Maybe He doesn't want us to focus on the experience but rather focus on Him and His message? Certainly, if Paul didn't know, I'm not sure how we would qualify for knowing.

 

[Frank Goad]

If it was God, you would have known by now. IMO

A vision can be a word of knowledge or a word of wisdom. The answer of "is it of God" isn't as hard as one thinks. It can usually be determined by simply judging what we saw or heard by the word of God.

Even Paul said, "Whether in the body or out of the body, I do not know". Maybe He doesn't want us to focus on the experience but rather focus on Him and His message? Certainly, if Paul didn't know, I'm not sure how we would qualify for knowing.

So your saying if my prayer to God works I will know it for a fact?Cool!

 

[Kenny]

So you saying if my prayer to God works I will know it for a fact?Cool!

That isn't exactly what I said.



I said if the vision was from God, you would have known that by now.

 

[Deeje]

I just want to know if an out of body experience is a vision or literal.Or both.Why wouldn't God want me to know the answer?

God only used such experiences on his trusted servants in order for them to have the experience recorded for our benefit.....do you qualify? Why would God want to give you an out of body experience just because you are indecisive?

God doesn’t do ‘tricks’ to convince people who can’t make up their minds....the Pharisees asked Jesus to do tricks so that they could be convinced of his authenticity....he refused. Faith doesn’t need tricks.

 

[Chris Lovel]

I want to pray to God to show me the difference between a literal out of body experience.And an out of body experience that is a vision.So he can show me the difference between the two.And if only one is real.Or both. I think God will answer me because of Luke 11:9-10

As an NDE'er and OBE'er I can tell you you will not find the answer in the Bible. For one it is not a reliable source of information, having over 400 conflicting passages, I suggest to visit accredited web sites operated by Universities and scientist such as www.iands.org of nderf.org. These sites will show you that the OBE is in fact real and operates because we are all spiritual beings having a human experience and our soul is in the form of a conscious energy. Being energy we are eternal, (sound familiar), I hope this helps.