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A "Spiritual Connection" With Another?

metis

aged ecumenical anthropologist
Is having a "spiritual connection" possible with someone whom you've not seen or talked to in years or decades, plus what exactly is a "spiritual connection" to you if you believe that it indeed may or does exist?

Three years ago I would have said "no way!", but as I explained in some detail about a year or so ago, I now feel very different, although I'm not going into the detail that I did back then since it involved three very lengthy posts. I ask this because something again happened just last month that has confirmed why I feel that this is not only possible, but probable-- at least with me. And let me just say that I am probably about the least superstitious person on Planet Earth.

But first, what about you?
 

David1967

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
I believe its possible, but I have no personal experience to relate. But if you do then good for you. I bet its a most curious feeling.
 

metis

aged ecumenical anthropologist
I believe its possible, but I have no personal experience to relate. But if you do then good for you. I bet its a most curious feeling.
It's a series of events over three years now that have shaken me down to the core because I just didn't believe it was possible. I have no explanation as to why this is happening to me, but one thing is for sure and that's it neither a figment of my imagination nor based on coincidence. I still cannot wrap my head around it, as when these things happen it's just so absolutely shocking to me.

Thanks for responding.
 

BSM1

What? Me worry?
Is having a "spiritual connection" possible with someone whom you've not seen or talked to in years or decades, plus what exactly is a "spiritual connection" to you if you believe that it indeed may or does exist?

Three years ago I would have said "no way!", but as I explained in some detail about a year or so ago, I now feel very different, although I'm not going into the detail that I did back then since it involved three very lengthy posts. I ask this because something again happened just last month that has confirmed why I feel that this is not only possible, but probable-- at least with me. And let me just say that I am probably about the least superstitious person on Planet Earth.

But first, what about you?

Could you at least give us a thumbnail description of what you're talking about?
 

metis

aged ecumenical anthropologist
Could you at least give us a thumbnail description of what you're talking about?
Hey, I'm not even too sure of what I'm talking about, but I will "spill my guts" (probably not a pretty sight) tomorrow. Thanks for asking.
 

beenherebeforeagain

Rogue Animist
Premium Member
Is having a "spiritual connection" possible with someone whom you've not seen or talked to in years or decades, plus what exactly is a "spiritual connection" to you if you believe that it indeed may or does exist?

Three years ago I would have said "no way!", but as I explained in some detail about a year or so ago, I now feel very different, although I'm not going into the detail that I did back then since it involved three very lengthy posts. I ask this because something again happened just last month that has confirmed why I feel that this is not only possible, but probable-- at least with me. And let me just say that I am probably about the least superstitious person on Planet Earth.

But first, what about you?
I don't necessarily agree that the sort of experience you are talking about is 'superstitious.' I don't know what causes the experiences, but I don't assume that it is, or is not, paranormal...To me, it's just one of the mysteries of life...

Yes, I have had a number of experiences that might fit this. one of the most impressive for me was dreaming about a particular someone, and on waking, calling her and having her say she had just been dreaming about me...She described her dream, and it was pretty much what I had just dreamed...same location, etc.
 

metis

aged ecumenical anthropologist
I don't necessarily agree that the sort of experience you are talking about is 'superstitious.' I don't know what causes the experiences, but I don't assume that it is, or is not, paranormal...To me, it's just one of the mysteries of life...

Yes, I have had a number of experiences that might fit this. one of the most impressive for me was dreaming about a particular someone, and on waking, calling her and having her say she had just been dreaming about me...She described her dream, and it was pretty much what I had just dreamed...same location, etc.
Thanks for this. However, I gotta go as I'm the "chef" tonight-- please pray for us.
 

PureX

Veteran Member
The problem for us is that these things don't 'translate'. They are not objective experiences that we can share with others and use to help us understand each other. There is much about existence that we do not understand, and almost certainly much that we are not even cognizant of. So there isn't really any way for the rest of us to help you make sense of whatever it is that you are experiencing.
 

shunyadragon

shunyadragon
Premium Member
Is having a "spiritual connection" possible with someone whom you've not seen or talked to in years or decades, plus what exactly is a "spiritual connection" to you if you believe that it indeed may or does exist?

Three years ago I would have said "no way!", but as I explained in some detail about a year or so ago, I now feel very different, although I'm not going into the detail that I did back then since it involved three very lengthy posts. I ask this because something again happened just last month that has confirmed why I feel that this is not only possible, but probable-- at least with me. And let me just say that I am probably about the least superstitious person on Planet Earth.

But first, what about you?

There is a lot of evidence of spiritual relationships between the consciousness of individuals, but the evidence is inconclusive and much of the tie very anecdotal. Despite these limitations I believe they are evidence for the existence of the soul, and that the consciousness of the soul is not limited in time nor space.
 

SomeRandom

Still learning to be wise
Staff member
Premium Member
I think so. I often saw it with my Ma growing up. She'd dream about some person we haven't spoken to only to receive a call from them the next day saying the same thing. It was kind of spooky.

I recall being suddenly wistful for one of my dad's friends I hadn't talked to in a while. Just an overwhelming feeling of regret and sadness almost randomly. So decided to contact them on Facebook on my lunch break. Only to go home and encounter the unfortunate news that said person had had enough of life. (Yes that euphemism is deliberate.)
 

Spiderman

Veteran Member
Yeah, weird unexplainable things happen, and it really means something to the person experiencing it, but then you explain it and nobody understands.

When I was in jail, I thought the spirit of a girl who was murdered in 1974 was with me, and then a 1974 penny showed up in one of the cells. It was the only money I saw in the 11 months I was in jail. I asked my dad what nationality her last name was and he said, "it's Swedish, did you know you have Swedish on your mother's side?" I didn't know that. So, it is only through this girl that I know I'm part Swedish. It just so happens the football team here is called "the Vikings" and Swedes were Vikings. I got out of jail and was right next to a building called "the Swedish institute". And I got shock treatments at "The Swedish hospital".

All those coincidences and many more spoke to me in all sorts of ways. I keep a shrine to her, buy her flowers, pray to her, and burn lots of incense before her images. It is truly rewarding.
 

metis

aged ecumenical anthropologist
First of all, thanks for your responses.

Next, I'm gonna try and give you a very brief explanation of what happened up to last month, the latter of which I'll cover in a 2nd post.

Back during my undergrad years in the mid-60's, I fell in love with a very devout Catholic woman (I'll refer to her as "C") who was like no person I had ever met before, having so much love, compassion, and fairness. Even though I was Protestant, I went to mass with her several times. However, she dropped me after several months. However, two years later fate brought us back together, and this time we both fell madly in love with each other.

But during the interim, another very devout and loving Catholic woman (I'll refer to as "J") and we fell in love, and it was she who I eventually married. However, J was the woman who really set the standard that changed my life for the last 50 years, and my wife has always lived up to that loving and devout standard.

Three years ago, I was 11:00 mass on Palm Sunday, and all of a sudden this popped into my head: "J is praying at the 11:00 mass at a church near her home". It was such a powerful feeling that came out of nowhere, and it literally brought tears to me eyes. When I got home, I googled her, found out where she lived, found the nearest Catholic church, got into that church's website, and found out the indeed she was undoubtedly at that mass because her husband was scheduled to serve communion then. Then this kept on reoccurring about 1-2 times a month in an irregular pattern with no warning, and it was darn near driving me nuts.

Then we went to our place in the U.P., and suddenly it stopped for three straight months, and I couldn't figure out why? Then my wife and I went to a different Catholic church in a nearby town because we were told that they had a great choir. The mass started at 10:30, and then halfway through it, wham! -- it hit again. Then it dawned on me, so I looked down at my watch and it said 11:00. The church we had gone through whereas it didn't happen had mass at 9:30, and C's church had no mass at that time. So, then it confirmed that this all wasn't just a product of my imagination.

But I didn't know what this meant. What's this all about? A few months later I kept having a reoccurring thought that I should go back and visit the church on campus where I first had gone with C, and I remembered Gandhi's teaching that if you keep having a reoccurring thought to do something, first make sure that it's moral and, if so, just do it-- no excuses.

So, then last spring, we get a notice to spend two free nights at a casino about a two hour drive from us that we've never been to, which is also fairly close to the campus. By this time, I told my wife what was happening and that I had no clue why it was, so we took the offer. I dropped her off at the casino and made it to 11:30 mass on campus. I was scared to death because I didn't know what this was all about and where this was going.

The atmosphere at the church was quite different than it was 50 years ago. Back then, it was very solemn but beautiful, but now it was quite joyous and beautiful. Then, during the Lord's Prayer, which I had not said in over 20 years, it finally got put together in almost an instant.

C, who was quite introverted, was the person who gave me direction in my life that I could never thank her enough for, but J was the one who was more compatible with my own rather goofy personality. My wife is very spiritual, with a much stronger faith than I, as was C. So what's this all about?

Going over my life, I realized just how much these two beautiful and devout Italian women directed my life, and I also realized now much the church played such a huge role as well. Two years ago I had to drop out of my synagogue because of a logistics problem that I couldn't deal with, and I'm just wondering whether the Boss was telling me "Go back to church, dummy!"?

So I have-- and with enthusiasm, even though I have no intention of converting.

Next I will mention about what happened a month ago and, fortunately, that's a much shorter story.
 

metis

aged ecumenical anthropologist
A month ago, I fell into a "funk"-- a depression. But I have never had problems with depression. If something upsets me, it last maybe for a few hours, but never any longer. My motto has long been "Just go with the flow". But for the first time in my life, this didn't work.

Trouble is that there was no apparent cause. Nothing bad had happened to me or my family, and yet this went on for four days. On that Sunday, as much as I always look forward to going to mass, I didn't want to go. However, I forced myself anyway. Even though it brought me some satisfaction, my depression continued on throughout the day into early morning on Monday. I was at a total loss of why this was happening as nothing in my 73 years of life had ever happened to me like this.

Monday morning I got on-line, checked my local newspaper's website, went to the obituary section, and found out that C's mother had passed away (Sunday). As close as C was to her family, I'm sure this really must have depressed her, and I think it's likely that I somehow picked up on this. Proof, no; but I can't believe it was just coincidence.

In conclusion, let me just say that the premonitions of "C is praying..." have stopped, I've very happy and active to be back with the church as I do believe this is where I belong. And then I look back at my life that has been so much directed by two very devout women who have literally made my life a blessing. I love them both so much and, fortunately their influence has been passed on to our "kids" and grandkids as they very much reflect these two loving women.

My wife has been very supportive of this three year crazy journey I've been on, and she well knows that I would never leave her-- quite the opposite as it has actually made our marriage even stronger.

Thanks for your comments, and take care.
 

LuisDantas

Aura of atheification
Premium Member
Is having a "spiritual connection" possible with someone whom you've not seen or talked to in years or decades, plus what exactly is a "spiritual connection" to you if you believe that it indeed may or does exist?
Yes, I think that it is possible and probably happens fairly often, although I would generally prefer to call it by other names if given the choice.

Human beings express themselves and perceive each other in several different ways, often at the same time, and give each other a lot of feedback in so doing. I even think that much of the joy of sex comes from actually attaining a particularly deep and efficient feedback loop.

I would assume that people who have shared enough of a variety and quantity of experiences, have similar enough inherent tendencies, and experience enough honest, open communication with each other will often develop a solid core of reciprocal understandings and with those attain a remarkable improvement of quality of interaction. Something far less onerous and far more joyous and fulfilling than would be otherwise fulfilling, not least because it would be laced with healthy amounts of mutual recognition and respect the whole time.

I don't even doubt that such experiences may well be the main reason why concepts of divinity and spirituality exist in the first place.
 

Spiderman

Veteran Member
A month ago, I fell into a "funk"-- a depression. But I have never had problems with depression. If something upsets me, it last maybe for a few hours, but never any longer. My motto has long been "Just go with the flow". But for the first time in my life, this didn't work.

Trouble is that there was no apparent cause. Nothing bad had happened to me or my family, and yet this went on for four days. On that Sunday, as much as I always look forward to going to mass, I didn't want to go. However, I forced myself anyway. Even though it brought me some satisfaction, my depression continued on throughout the day into early morning on Monday. I was at a total loss of why this was happening as nothing in my 73 years of life had ever happened to me like this.

Monday morning I got on-line, checked my local newspaper's website, went to the obituary section, and found out that C's mother had passed away (Sunday). As close as C was to her family, I'm sure this really must have depressed her, and I think it's likely that I somehow picked up on this. Proof, no; but I can't believe it was just coincidence.

In conclusion, let me just say that the premonitions of "C is praying..." have stopped, I've very happy and active to be back with the church as I do believe this is where I belong. And then I look back at my life that has been so much directed by two very devout women who have literally made my life a blessing. I love them both so much and, fortunately their influence has been passed on to our "kids" and grandkids as they very much reflect these two loving women.

My wife has been very supportive of this three year crazy journey I've been on, and she well knows that I would never leave her-- quite the opposite as it has actually made our marriage even stronger.

Thanks for your comments, and take care.
I think it's beautiful!

I also do not think it was a coincidence.

also, I don't think it was a coincidence that I started a thread titled Saint Metis ;)
 
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