A new type of gun regulation

[9-10ths_Penguin]

And while we are at it, let's also look at the responsible and safe use and storage of firearms that pro- gun groups have been saying and supporting for years:
NRA Explore | Safety and Education
10 Commandments of Firearm Safety - European American Armory/USSG

You will find nowhere where illegal ownership, irresponsible storage, handling, and intentional misuse is championed

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If you think that the NRA supports laws in keeping with that "Second Commandment," I'd love to hear it. AFAIK, they've generally opposed requiring guns to be stored securely and unloaded.

 

[Curious George]

A right to do something certainly doesn't automatically create an obligation to do it.

That is not what I found interesting, nor what you implied.

The question is not whether such a right obliges someone to own or possess a gun, but whether it implies a right to choose not to own or possess a gun.

 

[Curious George]

Default position is I don't like any of them. However I accept my dislike is arbitrary and will set aside my dislike in the face of a reasonable argument.

I don't have a set of rules I go by because IMO circumstances are constantly changing so what might seem reasonable in one moment may not in the next. Rules are attachments.

You like what you like and don't like what you do not. Your default is that you do not like anything, until you do. That sounds like a wonderfully whimsical approach.

 

[Revoltingest]

I would prefer both plus a couple of others, say
M1 Carbine
M40A5
L115A3
Desert Eagle
Just to start with.

Don't stop there....
I'd any any of the CheyTac rifles.
And for fun, Matthew Quigley's rifle.

 

[Shad]

I doubt it will pass but what does everyone think of the McDaniel Militia act?

This house bill, requires that every Missouri resident between ages 18-35 own or possess an AR-15 type rifle.

I am completely against such a mandate. However I would point of the Act was proposed to "points out the absurdity of the opposite side" and "make a point on mandates in general.". It is trolling more or less in my view.

Rep. McDaniel says bill requiring AR-15s makes 'point on mandates'

*Other posts already covered the above.

 

[Nakosis]

You like what you like and don't like what you do not. Your default is that you do not like anything, until you do. That sounds like a wonderfully whimsical approach.

I just see it more as honest. I suspect most folks make their choices mostly based on their feelings rather than logic and rules. They just try to use logic and rules to justify what they feel.

 

[Shad]

Whose paying for these guns? And isn't forcing people to carry guns just as anti-freedom as banning them outright? Neither give the private citizen a choice on the matter.

A tax credit for purchase is part of the Act.

 

[Curious George]

I just see it more as honest. I suspect most folks make their choices mostly based on their feelings rather than logic and rules. They just try to use logic and rules to justify what they feel.

Perhaps that is true. That however does not mean that such a practice is best.

 

[Curious George]

I am completely against such a mandate.

Why?

 

[Shad]

Why?

As it is a mandate purchasing of an item by the state regardless of choice.

 

[Curious George]

As it is a mandate purchasing of an item by the state regardless of choice.

What is the issue with that?

 

[Shad]

What is the issue with that?

As it is forcing purchase of a commercial product by the state. If they want to arm citizens create a stock or armory.

 

[Curious George]

As it is forcing purchase of a commercial product by the state. If they want to arm citizens create a stock or armory.

Yes, I am asking on what grounds to you object to the forced purchasing of a commercial product by the state.

 

[Stanyon]

If you think that the NRA supports laws in keeping with that "Second Commandment," I'd love to hear it. AFAIK, they've generally opposed requiring guns to be stored securely and unloaded.

The ten commandments of Firearms safety in my post was issued by EAA, an importer of European firearms as a general safety reminder much like a lawnmower safety reminder saying not to run over your foot or put hand in grass chute while it is running.

By saying that the NRA is generally opposed to requiring (this is a key word) guns being stored securely and unloaded do you actually mean they generally oppose laws that would unnecessarily make criminals of otherwise law abiding people?

do you have any specific examples?

 

[esmith]

Don't stop there....
I'd any any of the CheyTac rifles.
And for fun, Matthew Quigley's rifle.

I'll go for any of the Barrett rifles but the M107A1 would be interesting.
And for nostalgia Lin McAdam's Winchester '73

 

[Shad]

Yes, I am asking on what grounds to you object to the forced purchasing of a commercial product by the state.

As it compelling purchase of an item by government edict. What do you not understand?

 

[Revoltingest]

I'll go for any of the Barrett rifles but the M107A1 would be interesting.
And for nostalgia Lin McAdam's Winchester '73

You are so irredeemably old school.

 

[esmith]

You are so irredeemably old school.

I resemble that remark.

 

[Father Heathen]

It worked too, reminded me of this:

I don't know if unwitting self-parody counts as "punking".

 

[Revoltingest]

I don't know if unwitting self-parody counts as "punking".

It does because it's effective.
The opposition immediately lapped it up.