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a most horrible event

Discussion in 'Current Events' started by Thief, Jul 6, 2020.

  1. Thief

    Thief Rogue Theologian

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    heard it just minutes ago on the radio

    a shooting that killed several
    including a little girl and a teenage boy

    four men opened fire on a Fourth of July gathering
     
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  2. BSM1

    BSM1 What? Me worry?

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    Yeah, Chicago. Nothing to see here....
     
  3. mikkel_the_dane

    mikkel_the_dane Shadow Wolf's Aspie sibling

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    Well, they were humans, so it do matter to me.
     
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  4. Revoltingest

    Revoltingest Christine's Uncle Fergus
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  5. Revoltingest

    Revoltingest Christine's Uncle Fergus
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    I don't know how this appears to non-Ameristanians (I'm guessing
    from your moniker that you're in Denmark), but society is inured
    to urban black folk killing each other, particularly in Chicago.
    Not saying that it's right....but this explains why it's not front page news.
     
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  6. Thief

    Thief Rogue Theologian

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    I am beside myself at this moment
     
  7. mikkel_the_dane

    mikkel_the_dane Shadow Wolf's Aspie sibling

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    Well, we have the same with our different criminal gangs. But it is not that violent in the regularity and how many it involves. And it still makes the front pages.
     
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    Understandable. The first UK Covid death was named in the national news. Now it's a graph.

    A single death is a tragedy, a million deaths is a statistic.
    -Stalin.
     
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  9. Valjean

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    This is news? :(
    There are shootings every day in the US. They rarely even make the news. Those that do are just flukes, with publicized videos or charismatic victims.
     
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  10. Thief

    Thief Rogue Theologian

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    for whatever reason....
    I am sitting here grieving the loss of a child I do not know

    I have grown old with everyday news of killings
    some of which boggle the mind how maniacal and cold
    and I usually just nod my head to agreed consensus.....It's bad

    but the radio report struck a nerve

    I don't know why
     
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    Unless it is white on black. Sorry but I have to be truthful, but sometimes the truth hurts.
     
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    Where are the demonstration and demands for justice? None? I wonder why?
     
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    The truth is that white nationalism is the largest terrorist group in the US and racism and racially motivated violence is on the rise, even according to FBI statistics. And racial profiling and excessive force in the police is front and center for a very good reason.
    The truth hurts indeed.

    That said, we won't see an end to shootings like this until we seriously address the mother of all crime, income disparities and high poverty levels especially in poor neighborhoods where upward mobility is rare. Coupled with national gun reform and mental health care reform.
     
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  14. Revoltingest

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    Keep an eye on that guy next to you.
    He looks very suspicious.
     
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    BSM1 What? Me worry?

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    Of course it does...what were their names?


    Greenville was the first place I thought of, but that was a club late at night, so I didn't think kids would be involved.
     
  16. Shadow Wolf

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    It goes to say, that not all that long ago the focus was on ecoterrorists and animal rights extremists as the big threat. Now it's white supremacists.
     
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  17. Revoltingest

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    Nah, there are bigger threats.
    Just a few...
    - Drunk drivers
    - Plague deniers
    - Hawkish politicians
    - Cops
    Moreover, there's the question to whom threats are posed.
    Drunk drivers & plague deniers are indiscriminate killers.
    Hawkish politicians kill primarily foreigners.
    But cops.....they kill one group far more disproportionately than even blacks.
    Males
     
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  18. mikkel_the_dane

    mikkel_the_dane Shadow Wolf's Aspie sibling

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    Well, this is discussion so I won't debate you.
    I will explain my point of view. I can never become another human. But humans are like each other, they are equal as humans and share common things common to the human condition. So I can have empathy for other humans, because they are like me. I wouldn't like that to happen to me and likewise I won't like it to happen to any other humans. But that is just me. I accept there are other points of view.
     
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    Here's another truth.
    Young black men is far and away the most violent demographic in the USA. 5X more likely to commit violence and murder than the second most violent demographic, young white men. 60X more likely than white women over 50.

    So, it is no surprise to me that the humans tasked with preventing and prosecuting violent crime treat young black men differently. That's the cops. They are humans, and therefore prone to errors. But the truth is that cops protect the lives of far far far more young black men(from other young black men, mostly) than die from police malfeasance. By orders of magnitude!
    Yes it does. Which is why BLM and SJWs tend to avoid it.
    Two thirds of black children are born to parents who are too irresponsible to use adequate birth control or provide a solid home for their children. Marriage would be a good start. All too many white kids are stuck with this problem, as well. But rotten parenting is a far bigger problem for black kids.

    But until BLM and SJWs are willing to grapple with problems that are politically incorrect to discuss(much less stage protests with the attendant chaos) I don't find them important.

    Yeah, they can blame the police and white racists for problems created by black people. March! Loot! Pull down statues! Throw fire bombs into cop cars!

    But I don't think they're doing anything more important than virtue signalling. Defund the cops and we'll get more dead black men. But that won't matter, because it'll be other black men doing the killing and you won't get a protest march out of such a common occurrence.
    Tom
     
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    My deepest sympathies to those who were harmed and to the families of those who were killed, and to anyone in the Chicago area.

    Blessings and best wishes,
     
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