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a letter to the muslims

Discussion in 'Islam DIR' started by chuck010342, Dec 25, 2004.

  1. chuck010342

    chuck010342 Active Member

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    Hence the bible is wrong

    Where does it go wrong?
     
  2. chuck010342

    chuck010342 Active Member

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    So I"m lost in translation then?
    Okay do me a favor. Show me a Koran where I can read it so I won't be lost
    in translation.
     
  3. chuck010342

    chuck010342 Active Member

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    One traces the linage of Abraham and One traces the linage of God they are different not countradictory.
     
  4. croak

    croak Trickster

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    Allah has a lineage? :p
     
  5. chuck010342

    chuck010342 Active Member

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    Didn't I answer them?
     
  7. jewscout

    jewscout Religious Zionist

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    But the definition of contradiction given by Webster says

    The lineages are inconsistent at best...they are two very different lineages...so it is a contradiction in the lineage of Jesus.
     
  8. _salam_

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    No I don't think I can give you a perfect translation, I think only Allah could do such a thing. This is why it's important to educate ourselves on such matters, so that we can become aware of what it really means. And whats wrong with a little education, right?
     
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    If the Koran is perfect then why is it only exsisting in Arabic. A perfect book would cross cultures and languages. If man kind cannot understand passages in it then why are they there?
     
  11. chuck010342

    chuck010342 Active Member

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    not all of them.
     
  12. chuck010342

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    There is no perfect translation of a perfect book, therefore Allah is showing particularity toward a specific lanugage and therefore Allah cannot be omniscient and Omnipotent.
     
  13. chuck010342

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    Sola Sciptura :woohoo: :jam:
     
  14. chuck010342

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    Perhaps we are lost in word choice.

    This is how webster defines a countradiction in the sense I am working from


    2 a : a proposition, statement, or phrase that asserts or implies both the truth and falsity of something b : a statement or phrase whose parts contradict each other <a round square is a contradiction in terms>
     
  15. Scott1

    Scott1 Well-Known Member

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    That was not a compliment ;)

    Why don't you drop by and explain sola scriptura on this thread: CLICK HERE.
     
  16. Feathers in Hair

    Feathers in Hair World's Tallest Hobbit

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    Well, the fact that so many are posting is rather an indicator against the 'nobody cares about me' thought. And I'm sorry that you don't care about anyone on this earth, because I wish I could heal that.
     
  17. chuck010342

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    They are not exactly the same I grant you that, but they are not countradictory either which shows that they must be truthful. I could exspound on this more if you would like to hear one of my boring lectures on the gospels :D
     
  18. chuck010342

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    Yes but I think there hearts are in the wrong place. You might be able to heal that, I have no doubt but it doesn't look like thats a possibility.
     
  19. _salam_

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    As I said before, because thats the language Muhammad (pbuh) spoke. Muhammad (pbuh) wouldn't understand a revelation in English.
    Thats your opinion.
    Go back and read post #150 I gave a few different explanations.

    I'm through arguing with you about the Qur'an being perfect only in Arabic and such. It is only your opinion that it isn't perfect because it is only in Arabic and as you know I obviously dissagree with that. Neither of us is going to convince eachother differently, so lets just agree to dissagree on this subject. Now if there are other matters that you would like to discuss I would be more than happy to do so.
     
  20. Dr. Nosophoros

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    Allah is god, so is Jesus, as well as Jehova,Thor, Macbnah, Noredions, milkobaxeres, calikjsregc.

    you know why you didn't hear of the last four Gods? because people before me in my lands did not have good enough swords or good enough tactics to prevent the onslaught of those that held belief in those "other" "gods".:woohoo:
     
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