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A hybrid EV battey that charges in 72 seconds. Not there but it's a start.

Discussion in 'Current Events' started by Twilight Hue, Nov 24, 2022.

  1. Twilight Hue

    Twilight Hue Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.

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  2. The Sum of Awe

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    This is all actually happening. What the heck???
    I was told another issue is that these cars require special automotive shops for repairs, special meaning uncommon and would require a bit of a drive (or tow) to reach one.
     
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  3. Twilight Hue

    Twilight Hue Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.

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    My biggest concern past its power capability is its planned obsolescence so corporations can continuously and routinely gouge its customers like they do with smartphones.

    The exclusivity like specialized shops and supply centers would be the first red flag on what's coming down the pipe.


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  4. The Sum of Awe

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    Yeah, if I had to buy a new car every year I'd be pretty annoyed.

    Why can't they just invent teleporters already?
     
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  5. Twilight Hue

    Twilight Hue Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.

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    Heh heh. I hear they are death machines.


     
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    I've heard that before. But you often hear people stuck in traffic talking about how much they want to die, so I guess it's a win-win. :shrug:
     
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  7. Heyo

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    Which is just another issue of scale. Nobody opens a special shop for EVs because nobody has an EV. Nobody has an EV because there are no shops.
    (Same goes for charging stations.)
     
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    There are more and more charging stations being built all the time. Currently there are about 1/3 as many charging stations for EVs as gas stations Interactive: EV Charging Stations Across the U.S. Mapped

    The new fast charging tech article mentioned that the really rapid charging will apply to smaller EVs such as in-town cars, electric bikes and the like. That makes sense for the new tech.
     
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    Perhaps. It is new technology. There are not that many on the road yet. But people can learn rather quickly . When the demand goes up service will go up.
     
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    Interesting technology. Let's see where it goes. So far ultracapacitors have been used in regenerative braking systems only as they have lower energy storage ability than batteries. If the company has found a way to increase the energy storage of UCs then it will be great.

    Meanwhile here is a good perspective of the future of EV vehicles
    Electric cars and batteries: how will the world produce enough?
     
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    Revoltingest Abnormal before it was fashionable
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    Everyone knows that the Jews & George Soros
    are behind this conspiracy. They forced Obama
    to order companies to make products obsolete.
    They also prevent the public from buying engines
    that run on water.
     
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    This always happens with new technology. Every manufacturer is desperately trying to become the exclusive provider. So none of the initial products will be interchangeable until one version "wins" the greed battle. Then they will price-gouge everyone until the foreign copycats start flooding the market with knock-offs that work just as well and cost much less. Then, finally, we will have the product at an honest price.

    Every new technology has to get through the gauntlet of greed before we can make any real use of it.
     
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    You can have a charging stations every 50 miles but a charging station isn't a shop that works on EV's.
     
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    Those shops will come too. Right now the government is involved in adding charging stations. As more electric cars are bought and sold there will be an increased need for servicing. The free market will respond.
     
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    Even if there were to be a charging station on every corner, the problem of time would remain. I sometimes make an 8-hour trip to visit relatives in another city. The time includes a half hour stop for lunch. I fill up maybe three times, but it takes just a few minutes, so it doesn't add much to the trip time. If recharging takes 30 minutes, it adds an hour and a half to my journey, and that's not counting potential wait time for a free charging station, likely as the extended charging times means more stations are needed than gas pumps currently. Another factor is what do I do while waiting for the charge to complete? Lunch once, maybe, but what if a particular charging station did not have some kind of shelter nearby, and it's pouring with rain? I guess I sit in the car.

    All that goes away if the car can be charged in a few minutes, which is why this innovation, if it works out, is so effective.

    Just as an aside, I've wondered if changeable batteries would work, like the way we handle propane gas. Drive in, sit in the car while someone takes the depleted battery out and fits a charged one, pay, off we go! Meanwhile, depleted batteries sit in the back of the facility charging, ready for another user. When batteries wear out over time they are replaced with new ones, old batteries are recycled, and the whole thing is funded by the charging fees.
     
  16. Shadow Wolf

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    You keep mentioning life cycle but EV batteries last just as long as the batteries of a regular internal combustion engine (which is only a few years on average, give or take a couple depending on where you live).
     
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    That means you are an outlier like myself. Most people just don't drive that much. It wouldn't work for us, but that doesn't mean it's a problem that will exist for most.
     
  18. Twilight Hue

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    I dunno. I haven't required any first engine overhaul in 15 years on average. Most go to 200000 miles in cases before any major overhaul is required which is impressive. If batteries can equal that, it's a great start.
     
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    You don't have to actually do that. It violates the TOS, but, again, even with a regular car manufacturers try to force us into one of their authorized mechanics. But that's not just cars as all kinds of devices amd objecgs require security bolts and proprietary tools to work on.
    Just be sensible about like I am. Start out with a smaller electric engine to learn on, get a book to help teach you about them, and take that to apply it to an electric car when I eventually get one (they go fast so I do want one). But doing so while avoiding Telsa because those are hella anti-consumer, extremely over priced with attached bells and whistles you have to pay extra for (for now, till someone figures them out), and have in tow a list of failed promises, public endangerment, and lawsuits over the self driving program just not really being safe or reliable in a city/urban setting.
     
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    Batteries aren't a major engine overhaul. ****, at 200,000 miles replacing an engine gasket isn't even an overhaul but just a pain in the *** (I drive enough I've had to do that twice).
    To make a car battery last 15 years it has to be very gently and minimally used, with considerations to where you live.
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