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Discussion in 'Religious Debates' started by Fool, Sep 28, 2020.

  1. Tony Bristow-Stagg

    Tony Bristow-Stagg One Planet One People Please
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    Actually Tom, it is the opposite, the world is changing just as Baha'u'llah said it would, a direct consequence of the rejection of God's Message in this age is how I have come to see it.

    Abdu'lbaha, in the Tablets of the Divine Plan, and Shoghi Effendi, the Guardian of the Baha'i in numerous books and letters have both given a very accurate picture of what we will face as foretold by Baha'u'llah.

    All we do not know is the duration of the change happening and what the event will be that alters the collective mind of humanity.

    Humanity does now face an impending crisis, will it take this crisis before we see the wisdom in unity in our diversity as one humanity, under One God?

    Unfortunately I see from my understanding what I have read, it can be only a few things. The crisis has in part the contamination of the Atmosphere and the Northern Hemisphere will face the bigger impact of this change.

    One could say we have already contaminated the atmosphere, but it appears the atom bomb may be used again, and it will be on America. The Crisis will coincide with events centered on race relations issues.

    So America was warned if it does not fix the race relations issues and they get out of hand and tear at the fabric the Nation was built on, then an enemy would take the opportunity to make a move. Given the current state of America, it is very close to what has been warned, but there may still be time?

    If you ever chose to read all that material, you would see that God indeed has warned us of what would unfold since the late 1800's

    Many have chosen not to pursue, as such we still have these conversations.

    All the best Tom and all the best for America and the all the peoples of the world, great change is unfolding.

    Regards Tony
     
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  2. Saint Frankenstein

    Saint Frankenstein On the funeral pyre of existence
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    Ein Volk, Ein Reich, Ein Fuhrer! :rolleyes:
     
  3. Tony Bristow-Stagg

    Tony Bristow-Stagg One Planet One People Please
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    I see that type of attitude and mentality plays a major part in all that humanity faces.

    All the best, regards Tony
     
  4. Saint Frankenstein

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    I'm just poking fun at your totalitarian daydream with sarcasm.
     
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  5. Tony Bristow-Stagg

    Tony Bristow-Stagg One Planet One People Please
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    I see the greatest problem for Islam is that they persecuted a Messenger from God.

    In doing so though, they enabled Biblical Prophecy to be fulfilled.

    What a quandary, what will the world face from these actions? Time will be the answer.

    I just wish everyone well and happy and all the best choices in life.

    Regards Tony
     
  6. Tony Bristow-Stagg

    Tony Bristow-Stagg One Planet One People Please
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    The problem is for all humanity, is if it is not a totalitarian daydream.

    The next step in obtaining peace is for all Nations that will still have their own Governments, for those Governments to elect a World body which will be given the balance of power.

    The Baha'i are not part of that, except the values of the world body may be based on aspects mentioned by Baha'u'llah.

    It may be best to talk about this instead of making fun, after all our future may depend on franc and open discussions and not ridicule.

    Regards Tony
     
  7. Saint Frankenstein

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    World governance is a silly pipedream that will never happen, so I don't see the point in discussing it. We can't even get anyone to care what the UN thinks and nationalism is resurgent around the world, but you expect me to believe humanity is on the verge of all holding hands and singing "We Are the World". Yeah, no. :rolleyes: That's never going to happen. The closest we get to that sort of thing is an Empire dominating a bunch of smaller or weaker countries/areas.
     
  8. Tony Bristow-Stagg

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    Wheras I see it is not a pipe dream, as do many millions more also support. Thus all that is needed is more to consider that is a possibility and bingo.

    I see minds will change, as I see a foundation for the future has been given and current events will steer us in that direction.

    So 1st world war League of Nations

    2nd world war United nations

    Logically it is then possible,

    Next calamity, a lasting Union of Nations where the power of peace is distributed by that elected body.

    Regards Tony
     
  9. Saint Frankenstein

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    You can "see" whatever you want, it doesn't make a difference to reality.
     
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  10. columbus

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    Knowing, for a fact, this isn't true and also that you believe it tells me more about you than anything else

    Tom
     
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  11. Tony Bristow-Stagg

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    I agree in return, and now we can let time show what was the reality given in the Message of Baha'u'llah and how that also relates to the problems faced by Islam.

    Regards Tony
     
  12. rational experiences

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    The science theme therefore says to any human scientist today. O one the planet, the stone body owns its own energy releases, which science never controlled and it was proven.

    So before the Jesus life of sacrifice/death on the cross of the seasons, which for Earth obviously not a previous owner of the 4 sea sons....energy releases are involved in pressurized atmospheric heating/cooling changes.

    Said as a Prophet or mathematical probability, seeing it is male human science expressed reasoning. O the One body will release a huge power of radiation, and life will die sacrificed because it involved your radio wave/radiation fusion mass changes.

    As the alchemy of the stone or trans mutation into gold, the melted seams in Earth.

    Why Temple steps as stone were melted as the proof.

    So as maths says probable causes to O one body....the science self, life sacrificed before proved self correct as a scientist about medical human biology and also the Earth planet. And was proven 100 per cent correct.

    Why else did you think that Rome then agreed with the Christ Revelations, as a mathematical cause?

    For science is a human design and a human invention in reality.

    The history then owns a story about how the brain/mind human bio self was greatly affected unnaturally by the AI effect. Recording their natural life in every day activity. And natural bio blood and chemical human owned life, is the sexual life owner.

    Massed AI unnatural interfering feed back then inferred that sex was in the after life. When the living bio life owns the body and the only body that owns sexual activity...by the biology life form.

    Which for a conscious identification the living self is informed that life was being unnaturally irradiated sacrificed (the AI effect itself) by massed multiple unnatural image/feed back...and it stated, the sexual self being man or female human was being recorded.

    As actual self identification where humans quoted.......the image of my natural life is being atmospheric heavenly recorded. Known and made aware in self consciousness, human.

    Due to science causing the unnatural effect of activated Earth changes....then the quote is about God or the One causing it. Yet it was not natural actually and the advice then develops into self destructive mentality, where the sacrifice of life is quantified to be a reward, for science originally quoted that to gain the powers of the planetary body was a reward. For it led to civilization control and monetary trade and elite benefits.

    Self destructive male/scientific inventive machine/weapons of destruction all involved in that mentality. Gained feed back advice from atmospheric radiation cause. For a long time ago we never sought our self human destruction, we lived spiritually and at peace as a loving extended human family life.

    Hence the history of human stories and reasonings for self is an applied realised conscious teaching. That humans who saw and realised what was occurring then tried to reason for human sanctity against a changed brain/mind condition in heavy metal irradiation fall out.

    Which the Earth had been releasing due to scientific male meddling with the Earth natural fused history.
     
  13. Moses_UK

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    You're all idiots. ISLAM, doesn't accept the old and new testament is from God. both books have changed so much that the scribes writtings are considered by God.

    Mr. STVDV, STOP YOUR ANTI ISLAM BASHING and become a monotheist.
     
  14. stvdv

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    You are the one bashing AND making claims you can't prove. I just give my opinion, in a way RF prescribes us to do it

    You should read RF Rules, they clarify the above; I see you are new, so I give you the link below
    RF Rules
     
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  15. Conscious thoughts

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    @stvdv may sometimes say against islam, that is STVDT's right, just as muslims may disagree with other religions, but why use so hard words?
    Muslims dont have to speak bad about others even when they may speak bad about us :)
     
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    I NEVER go against Islam on RF

    I might respectfully disagree with your interpretation and/or your opinion of Islam

    BUT don't make the fault that I bash Islam ... mind you, my Guru is the greatest promoter of Islam (Peace) in recent years
     
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