A Vestigial Mote
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Alright then, please tell me how the two points I made - that is, having a sense of feeling, and that feeling being enough to trigger a survival response from a living thing is not tantamount to pain. I argue that both are THE intrinsic mechanism for the respective beings experiencing them that triggers a battle for survival. Just because one comes with an internal negative feedback mechanism that we explicitly identify with (pain) doesn't negate the trauma of the experience for the other being.A "general sense of feeling" is a far cry from "suffering tremendously", or "excruciating pain", or a "horrible ordeal".
Not for the sake of this discussion it isn't. The idea that the existence of this kind of suffering rules out the possibility of, "the existence of a loving, intervening deity" is the whole point of the OP.
Nice. So, can I take this to mean that YOU, personally feel it is "'okay' for a person suffering from congenital analgesia/CIP to be repeatedly stabbed, burrowed into, or eaten alive simply because they can't 'feel pain'?" Wait... is that a "I DIDN'T SAY THAT!" I see on the horizon. Hmmm... one wonders why you bothered to point out that other threads on this forum may contain grim and/or apathetic subject matter. Though it didn't take that wonder long to abate once I realized you were dodging the question.Do you read many of the threads here?
Even if you don't believe in God, by taking the alternate stance in this thread you were playing "Devil's Advocate" of a sort. Or, in this case "God's advocate." That's sort of a given. Especially since you, yourself pointed out above that the whole point of the OP was, let's see, how did you put it? "The idea that the existence of this kind of suffering rules out the possibility of, 'the existence of a loving, intervening deity' is the whole point of the OP". Yes, that was it, and you replying to this thread, and with a stance in detraction of the OP was you making excuses for God, playing defense-team for God... however you want to put it, YOU decided to post here, and post with what you posted. Go ahead and reply "uh huh...?" again... it made you seem so intelligent the first time. I can't wait to feel that rush of excitement at having been stumped by someone so obviously talented and profoundly adept again.Uh huh . . . ?
Was what I was doing not debating? Should I have put "I believe..." in front of all of my statements? Was I not merely attempting to counter your arguments/excuses/etc.? What was I doing then? Taking a side? Taking a side contrary to the one you wanted to take? Hmmm... sounds like one of the very prerequisites for a debate to me. Interesting...If you're only interested in hearing one perspective on this, maybe you should go read a blog and leave the debate forums for people who, you know, want to engage in a debate (?)
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