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7 Witches burned alive in Tanzania

Discussion in 'Consumer Affairs' started by ShivaFan, Oct 11, 2014.

  1. ShivaFan

    ShivaFan Satyameva Jayate
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    Health services and healing arts are also offerings to consumers, they are for the most part not free. In the past, I considered hiring the services of a witch doctor, but now I have some concerns and there is no registry or Better Business Bureau that deals with witch doctors in California. It appears however there are such registry and BBB where witches and their services good or bad can be documented publically.

    Consumer affairs liaisons and agencies need more awareness as this industry and services of witch doctors becomes more accepted in the fabric of America.

    There are good witches and bad - but many are good. Also, there are forms of medical practice that utilize traditional sorcery (moving invisible forces and body "electrics") as well as magic medicine such as protection from the evil eye.

    These services are also offered by witch doctors who tend to be males. I notice some use pheasant and chicken feathers which I think isn't necessary, but I don't have a problem with human skulls depending on how they were acquired.

    Some of these witch doctors are really fab guys and I like them a lot, in fact I wish more of their services were available in California as like I said I might consider hiring their help from time to time - now that by law you must be under some healthcare plan "or go to jail" be it Obamacare or some private healthcare, I think the services of witch doctors should be an option where witch doctors offer their own healthcare plans or HMO.

    But we do need to scrutinize if they are good witch doctors or bad, and I am not exactly sure how that would be done, outside of waiting until one does something illegal such as burning a witch, which you would think witches and witch doctors would be natural allies but apparently that is not always, as in the case reported yesterday in Tanzania.

    For sure the government healthcare plans here in California aren't going to offer a witch doctor option, which is one reason I will fight to the end for private healthcare. Actually the healthcare reforms I look for, is to reform too many heavy handed regulations regarding practice, and I think a license to practice medicine and to be qualified as a healing practitioner should be much more diverse, allow for specialized nurses and practitioners on the cheap where I chose to take the risks as far as effectiveness, and actual licensing should afford to allow more clinics for fairly basic procedures where the educational rigor could be more lax, such as "associate" degrees from internet based schools in treating less serious ailments such as broken bones, cold and flu, sports injury prevention and recovery, acupuncture, and certification as a witch doctor.

    I assume the risk, it is my personal choice and I don't think you should have to have an 8 year degree from Stanford to be a witch doctor, a foot specialist, a contact lens "doctor", and those type of things which no doubt may misdiagnose the problem but I will assume these risks at my own choice for a better balance of low cost and diverse "fast food" health clinics which will also offer vast job opportunities for middle class Americans in the recovery and prevention medical fields.

    However, today I read in the news an alarming trend in Tanzania of burning witches alive. This is not a joke, check the news online.

    Yesterday alone, seven more witches were burned alive on the stake in Tanzania. The other thing about this witch persecution comes from my perspective as a traveler to other countries, where witch persecution exists as simply a repressive tool to subject and surpress outcastes, low castes, landless, etc., labeling them as "witches" so that corrupt elites or competitive tribes can ostracize them to "keep those people in their place".

    This trick is used also by one tribe that considers themself "higher" than another to form mobs and then do the things that just happened yesterday in Tanzania where another tribe in a village was attacked and burnt to death by a mob of villagers who accused them of engaging in witchcraft. The complete report was revealed by the police chief for the western Kigoma region which borders Burundi.

    "Five of those killed were aged over 60, while the other two were aged over 40," he added.

    Unfortunately, just as there are good and bad witches, there are also good and bad witch doctors, and there were some bad witch doctors involved in these murders as well as one local healer.

    "When I returned home in the evening, I found the body of my mother lying 10 metres away from our house, while the body of my father was burnt inside the house," said Josephat John, according to Tanzania's Mwananchi newspaper.

    The burning alive and lynching of witches has gotten completely out of hand in Tanzania. Any US or UK based witches should keep this in mind when travelling to certain areas of Africa in particular. According to local Human Rights groups, as many as 500 to 3000 witches are lynched or burned at the stake every year, females and especially elderly unwanted females are often the target, those with "red eyes" and albinos.

    Albinos are a special case as victims of murder in Tanzania because it is belleved charms made from their dismembered body parts and bones bring good fortune and prosperity.

    The latest attacks are documented on several agencies including Dar es Salaam AFP.

    Here is the AFP report:

    Seven witchcraft suspects burned to death in Tanzania

    One thing for sure, there needs to be more awareness regarding persecution and burning of witches, this needs to stop.
     
  2. Revoltingest

    Revoltingest Greased up & ready for action!
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    For the record....I oppose burning witches.
    Dunking too.
     
  3. Tiapan

    Tiapan Grumpy Old Man

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    Reminds of Spain circa 16th century, are the africans still that close to Neanderthalism.
    Simple cure its called readin , ritin and rithmatic. We live in hope .

    cheers

    PS Briitish detectives are currently investigating 26 child mutilation murders related to african witchcraft in London.

    Why do they let these primatives in, and refuse us dinkum Aussies work visa's even though we are supposedly a commonwealth colony of Britain.
     
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  4. ShivaFan

    ShivaFan Satyameva Jayate
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    I couldn't agree more, that is why I am a huge advocate for educational rights of children - on a global level. I take "natural rights" as taught to me seriously, this reading, writing and arithmetic is a natural right (part of nature or God but beyond the laws of man). And so I AM MALALA. I have this "dry humour " that is second nature of some Americans that probably confuses other nationalities at times, but often it is effective. The irony is huw do we balance each factor, which may seem just a footnote yet a little bump in the road can change the course of the next turn in the road. Including in regards to witch doctors. One sees the place for both witch doctors and witches, we think each would be the advocated for at least onr right - freedom from such murder - yet....
     
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