"31% of White Evangelicals Say They’ll Support Trump No Matter What He Does"

[Subduction Zone]

That's ****ing disgusting.

Don't worry, Trump supporters are an ever shrinking minority. They dream of a repeat, but Trump's actions have hurt the swing voter states that he depended on more than any others. Unless he pulls out an economic miracle he is gone.

 

[SkepticThinker]

Whenever I hear someone say "white" I know I am talking to a racist.
I have been watching this "moral change" since the 1960's. I have
documented some of the Gallup Poll stats in my profile below.

It's interesting that the Vietnam war was the last time America fought
a war against a "Godless" enemy. These days it's America who is
Godless. I wonder if the Americans who fought Japan and Germany,
those who would be our grandparents probably, would have actually
fought the America we see today, had they been transported to our
day? It's utterly impossible, but an interesting thought experiment.

Or, you simply don't understand the history of the USA.
Do you not realize that the Civil Rights Act didn't exist until 1964? That's one hundred years after the Civil War. That's how long it took for people of colour to be recognized as full human beings with full rights. It took that long to legislate against workplace discrimination based on colour, race, sex, or national origin as well.

So yeah, the people enjoying all that freedom and fantastic morality you speak of in the 1940s and 1950s were mostly white men.

 

[SkepticThinker]

Don't worry, Trump supporters are an ever shrinking minority. They dream of a repeat, but Trump's actions have hurt the swing voter states that he depended on more than any others. Unless he pulls out an economic miracle he is gone.

Every time I think he's done, he's not! But let's hope. I can't take anymore of these disgusting attitudes.

 

[BilliardsBall]

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Something that goes right to the heart of the White Evangelical mindset.

"The researchers at the Public Religion Research Institute (PRRI) just released their 2019 American Values Survey, and there’s one graph in particular that says so much about the state of religion in this country. It concerns how various religious groups see Donald Trump: Do they like him? And could he do anything to change their minds?

It’s not surprising that white evangelicals overwhelmingly support him. They don’t care about — or are willing to overlook — his affairs, scandals, inhumanity, ignorance, racism, and blatant pandering. It’s also not a shock that non-religious people and Black Protestants mostly disapprove of him.

But look at the far ends of the bars. They represent whether those groups are open to changing their minds.

While 75% of white evangelicals approve of Trump’s performance in office, 31% of them say there’s literally nothing he could do to lose their support. He really could shoot someone on Fifth Avenue without it making a difference to his base."
source

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OMG! It's only 31%! I think it's 90% of white evangelicals who appreciate Trump, since you know, the Democrats love social justice but like giving money to organizations, domestic and international, that kill children.

You found the wrong survey. It's like 90% of white evangelicals. See you in 2020--and beyond!!!!

 

[Subduction Zone]

OMG! It's only 31%! I think it's 90% of white evangelicals who appreciate Trump, since you know, the Democrats love social justice but like giving money to organizations, domestic and international, that kill children.

You found the wrong survey. It's like 90% of white evangelicals. See you in 2020--and beyond!!!!

I would suggest that you change this post of yours. Real Christians value the Ninth Commandment.

 

[PruePhillip]

The people who fought in World War II were less interested in eradicating racism than they were in striking back at an invasion of our country. The war in the pacific was much more urgent due to "those Nips" having invaded US soil than the war in Europe where Hitler was more a problem as an enemy of democracy than a racist committing genocide against the Jews.

So I think many of the brave soldiers of WWII would look at America today and see a peaceful invasion/integration of the world and respond in the style of the two camps we see today.

For starters, people back then didn't swear to the extent people do today.
Most were church going folk. They didn't have the divorce rate we have
today. In my country gambling was illegal. A lot of what passes for adult
entertainment would have been banned as pornography. They even had
to find a stripper to model the first bikini.

You hear people today talking about the "racism" or "sexism" or
whatever back in WWII times. Movies show how "hypocritical" these
people were. I take that as a form of psychological Transference or
Projection - it's ourselves who have the growing problem.

As an aside. From 1962 to 1992 the crime rate went through the roof.
But when I tried to put this out to liberals I was told these figures are
just the result of "better reporting" and such. Now that the crime rate
has gone down the same people will point to the figures to prove their
point that the world is becoming a better place. This underscores a
congenital dishonesty in how people see their world.

 

[PruePhillip]

That's ****ing disgusting.

Feminists in Australia hold to the American line that "rape is about power."
And women can dress as they like, go where they like and consort with
whom they like.
Recently Melbourne has had three high profile murders of young women
walking through parks or leaving hotels late at night.
Essentially these three lives were lost due to feminist ideology. What did
the feminists do? They protested about the male patriarchy. Feminism
isn't about being feminine, it's about Power.

 

[PruePhillip]

Or, you simply don't understand the history of the USA.
Do you not realize that the Civil Rights Act didn't exist until 1964? That's one hundred years after the Civil War. That's how long it took for people of colour to be recognized as full human beings with full rights. It took that long to legislate against workplace discrimination based on colour, race, sex, or national origin as well.

So yeah, the people enjoying all that freedom and fantastic morality you speak of in the 1940s and 1950s were mostly white men.

And I wonder when the first white person used the term "black" in a derogatory way?
Probably they didn't think it would escalate, in some countries, to slavery and segregation.
The ethos of the 1960's was that you don't judge a person by their skin color. Well, it's
back again - judging people by their skin.
When I hear the term "black" or "white" I know there's a problem with looking at the heart
of a person. "Anti-racism" is often pure racism.

 

[Skwim]

OMG! It's only 31%! I think it's 90% of white evangelicals who appreciate Trump, since you know, the Democrats love social justice but like giving money to organizations, domestic and international, that kill children.

You found the wrong survey. It's like 90% of white evangelicals. See you in 2020--and beyond!!!!

If you skip back to the OP you'll see the issue isn't about the percentage of white evangelicals who appreciate Trump (75% approve of the job he's doing) but the percentage who currently approve, AND say almost nothing Trump could could do would lose their approval.(37%)

Now. . .

The Pew Research Center 2014 survey in the United States identified the evangelical percentage of the population at 25.4 percent while Roman Catholics are 20.8 percent and mainline Protestants make up 14.7 percent.
source:America’s Changing Religious Landscape Pew Research Center May 12, 2015. ​

Taking the percentage figures (25% and the 37%) for evangelicals in the USA as relatively accurate, this means that about 9.25% of adult Americans, (23,473,548 of them) feel almost nothing Trump could could do would lose their approval.

24.5 million people! Now that's scary

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[Jollybear]

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Something that goes right to the heart of the White Evangelical mindset.

"The researchers at the Public Religion Research Institute (PRRI) just released their 2019 American Values Survey, and there’s one graph in particular that says so much about the state of religion in this country. It concerns how various religious groups see Donald Trump: Do they like him? And could he do anything to change their minds?

It’s not surprising that white evangelicals overwhelmingly support him. They don’t care about — or are willing to overlook — his affairs, scandals, inhumanity, ignorance, racism, and blatant pandering. It’s also not a shock that non-religious people and Black Protestants mostly disapprove of him.

But look at the far ends of the bars. They represent whether those groups are open to changing their minds.

While 75% of white evangelicals approve of Trump’s performance in office, 31% of them say there’s literally nothing he could do to lose their support. He really could shoot someone on Fifth Avenue without it making a difference to his base."
source

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Ill tell you what could change my mind about trump.

If he changed his values and swung left wing and joined the democrats.

 

[PruePhillip]

If you skip back to the OP you'll see the issue isn't about the percentage of white evangelicals who appreciate Trump (75% approve of the job he's doing) but the percentage who currently approve, AND say almost nothing Trump could could do would lose their approval.(37%)

Now. . .

The Pew Research Center 2014 survey in the United States identified the evangelical percentage of the population at 25.4 percent while Roman Catholics are 20.8 percent and mainline Protestants make up 14.7 percent.
source:America’s Changing Religious Landscape Pew Research Center May 12, 2015. ​

Taking the percentage figures (25% and the 37%) for evangelicals in the USA as relatively accurate, this means that about 9.25% of adult Americans, (23,473,548 of them) feel almost nothing Trump could could do would lose their approval.

24.5 million people! Now that's scary .

24.5 million Evangelicals?

An estimated 24.6 million people in the United States used some kind of illicit drug in the past 30 days,
according to the latest government statistics. About 9.4% of all persons aged 12 and over are involved in
the use of illegal drugs or the nonmedical use of prescription drugs.Sep 26, 2019

The Types of Drugs Most Likely to Be Abused in America

 

[Subduction Zone]

Ill tell you what could change my mind about trump.

If he changed his values and swung left wing and joined the democrats.

So his immoral behavior does not bother you but possible moral behavior would.

Exactly what religion do you follow?

 

[Jollybear]

So his immoral behavior does not bother you but possible moral behavior would.

Exactly what religion do you follow?

No, its the opposite. If trump swung to the democrates he would become immoral. If you think hes immoral now, hed be more immoral if he swung left.

The right wingers have both moral and immoral people, but the left have ONLY immoral people. And moderates have both.

And the religion i follow is NOT the one you follow, thats for sure.

 

[Prometheus85]

So his immoral behavior does not bother you but possible moral behavior would.

Exactly what religion do you follow?

Right Wing Mythology

 

[Prometheus85]

Ill tell you what could change my mind about trump.

If he changed his values and swung left wing and joined the democrats.

In a 2004 interview, Trump told CNN's Wolf Blitzer: "In many cases, I probably identify more as Democrat," explaining: "It just seems that the economy does better under the Democrats than the Republicans. Now, it shouldn't be that way. But if you go back, I mean it just seems that the economy does better under the Democrats...But certainly we had some very good economies under Democrats, as well as Republicans. But we've had some pretty bad disaster under the Republicans. In a July 2015 interview, Trump said that he has a broad range of political positions and that "I identify with some things as a Democrat.

 

[Subduction Zone]

No, its the opposite. If trump swung to the democrates he would become immoral. If you think hes immoral now, hed be more immoral if he swung left.

The right wingers have both moral and immoral people, but the left have ONLY immoral people. And moderates have both.

And the religion i follow is NOT the one you follow, thats for sure.

You are very very confused. The right wingers in general have rather poor morals. Seriously you need to learn what moral behavior is.

Well at least we know that you do not follow the teachings of Jesus. You may follow the corruptions of Paul.

 

[Jollybear]

In a 2004 interview, Trump told CNN's Wolf Blitzer: "In many cases, I probably identify more as Democrat," explaining: "It just seems that the economy does better under the Democrats than the Republicans. Now, it shouldn't be that way. But if you go back, I mean it just seems that the economy does better under the Democrats...But certainly we had some very good economies under Democrats, as well as Republicans. But we've had some pretty bad disaster under the Republicans. In a July 2015 interview, Trump said that he has a broad range of political positions and that "I identify with some things as a Democrat.

Ya and his views/values changed.

 

[Jollybear]

You are very very confused. The right wingers in general have rather poor morals. Seriously you need to learn what moral behavior is.

Well at least we know that you do not follow the teachings of Jesus. You may follow the corruptions of Paul.

Well, id beg to differ. Its you that doesnt know what TRUE morality is.

But, humor me, what is morality to you?

 

[Subduction Zone]

Well, id beg to differ. Its you that doesnt know what TRUE morality is.

But, humor me, what is morality to you?

Let's compare.

Morality is doing the least harm to the largest number of people while allowing maximum freedom.

Tell me what you think moral behavior is.

 

[PruePhillip]

You are very very confused. The right wingers in general have rather poor morals. Seriously you need to learn what moral behavior is.

Well at least we know that you do not follow the teachings of Jesus. You may follow the corruptions of Paul.

Separating Paul from Jesus is a tactic rather than a doctrine.