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“We can affirm with certainty and with magisterial authority that the liturgical reform is irrevers

pearl

Well-Known Member
Archbishop Roche urged the students to pay attention to the “long and fascinating history of the liturgical movement” prior to Vatican II and to the choices made by the council fathers regarding the liturgy as well as the reasons for those choices.
He reminded them that Pope Francis, in his address to participants at the 68th Italian National Liturgical week in August 2017, recalled that St. Paul VI told cardinals in a consistory one year before his death, “The time has now come to definitively leave aside divisive elements, which are equally pernicious in both senses, and to apply fully, in accordance with the correct criteria that inspired it, the reform approved by us in the application of the wishes of the council.”
Pope Francis then added, “There is still work to be done in this direction, in particular by rediscovering the reasons for the decisions taken with regard to the liturgical reform, by overcoming unfounded and superficial readings, a partial reception and practices that disfigure it.”
 

Lain

Well-Known Member
Archbishop Roche urged the students to pay attention to the “long and fascinating history of the liturgical movement” prior to Vatican II and to the choices made by the council fathers regarding the liturgy as well as the reasons for those choices.
He reminded them that Pope Francis, in his address to participants at the 68th Italian National Liturgical week in August 2017, recalled that St. Paul VI told cardinals in a consistory one year before his death, “The time has now come to definitively leave aside divisive elements, which are equally pernicious in both senses, and to apply fully, in accordance with the correct criteria that inspired it, the reform approved by us in the application of the wishes of the council.”
Pope Francis then added, “There is still work to be done in this direction, in particular by rediscovering the reasons for the decisions taken with regard to the liturgical reform, by overcoming unfounded and superficial readings, a partial reception and practices that disfigure it.”

Makes sense, "the Sovereign Pontiff alone enjoys the right to recognize and establish any practice touching the worship of God, to introduce and approve new rites, as also to modify those he judges to require modification" and all that.
 

metis

aged ecumenical anthropologist
Archbishop Roche urged the students to pay attention to the “long and fascinating history of the liturgical movement” prior to Vatican II and to the choices made by the council fathers regarding the liturgy as well as the reasons for those choices.
He reminded them that Pope Francis, in his address to participants at the 68th Italian National Liturgical week in August 2017, recalled that St. Paul VI told cardinals in a consistory one year before his death, “The time has now come to definitively leave aside divisive elements, which are equally pernicious in both senses, and to apply fully, in accordance with the correct criteria that inspired it, the reform approved by us in the application of the wishes of the council.”
Pope Francis then added, “There is still work to be done in this direction, in particular by rediscovering the reasons for the decisions taken with regard to the liturgical reform, by overcoming unfounded and superficial readings, a partial reception and practices that disfigure it.”
Makes sense to me. How about you?
 

pearl

Well-Known Member
Makes sense to me. How about you?

It certainly emphasizes the urgency to regain unity within the Church. I will never understand why a number of Catholics refuse to acknowledge that the history of our religious heritage didn't begin with Trent.
 

Glaurung

Denizen of Niflheim
Trent said the same thing; that its liturgy was perpetual, now and forever. So I take the current pope's claims about the Mass of Paul VI with large dose of salt. After all, if the pope has authority over the liturgy then there's no mechanism to prevent a future pope reversing the reforms or even implementing an entirely new liturgy altogether.

If Pius V did not have the authority to bind his successors in the way he claimed then neither does Francis have the authority to bind his succssors into respecting any liturgical reform as irreversible.
 
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