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“If you know what life is worth you will look for yours on earth."
- Thread starter Sunstone
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I honestly don't understand the statement. At all. All humans are born on earth, and all live their lives on earth. I don't get the point of the statement. Maybe it would make sense with proper context. Or maybe it's just late and I'm being dumb right now.
Kuzcotopia
If you can read this, you are as lucky as I am.
Yeah it's true.
People put up with a lot of crap because they assume this life is only a test for the real reality to come.
Wait... what? Is that what this was supposed to be about? No wonder I don't get it. That is a completely foreign idea to me.
Kuzcotopia
If you can read this, you are as lucky as I am.
Yeah, me too.
i prefer to focus on this life, this world, and my place in it.
As an aside, starting off a post with a rhetorical double take is pretty funny.
psychoslice
Veteran Member
Well the only life there is, is here and NOW, why spend our precious time worrying about a life in the future that is never going to happen.
If one knows what life is worth, one is already beyond seeking.
My life is worth nothing without @Riverwolf, he threw that mjolnir arrow straight at...
Okay, I'll just..go...
I disagree with Bob.
Okay, I'll just..go...
I disagree with Bob.
Me too ,now ,I don't feel embarassing
BSM1
What? Me worry?
Did he make this statement before or after that third ganja doobie?
I don't understand how people aren't getting what that lyric means. I mean, really? It's simple. A lot of people live their lives obsessing over what may come after their deaths. They deny themselves and restrict themselves from doing things they really want to do because it may go against their professed religion and result in a negative afterlife for them. So the lyric is just saying to enjoy your life on Earth and not worry about the afterlife.
Yes, that's what it's about.
The song is about not putting up with Earthly injustice in the hope that it will earn you reward in Heaven:
http://www.lyricsfreak.com/b/bob+marley/get+up+stand+up_20021743.html
Why?
I agree with it. It calls out the debasement that many religious perspectives put on the value of human life.
I understand disagreeing with the idea, but you aren't even familiar with it?
The word "life" indicates life AS WE KNOW IT.
The ONLY life we can know is this earthy existence.
( A good definition of "moral".)
- concerned with the principles of right and wrong behavior and the goodness or badness of human character:
synonyms: virtuous, good, righteous, upright, upstanding, high-minded; More - holding or manifesting high principles for proper conduct:
These standards are those I've learned from:
My parents, family & associates; flawed as they were.
My environment; as imperfect as it is.
What I have learned by going to church when younger.
What I've learned in life's experiences....and more.
I haven't a clue what happens to humans after the death of our earthly bodies.
Do we have an eternal spirit?
Does some "god" judge our earthy life according to some "godly" standards?
I don't know those answers either.
I DO KNOW that bad behavior as judged by social norms can be quite painful.
Should we do something illegal we could get caught and punished. Not good.
If we commit some civil tort we could get sued and loose money. Not good.
If I hurt others by my conduct I'll be shunned and have emotional pain.
In many ways that my be worse than going to jail or getting sued.
I choose to live according to social standards.
Those standards in this society seem to be Christian Bible based.
Good enough for me.
Where did our society get these social standards?
I suspect they are all Christian Bible based.
I'm not excluding other religions here. I just don't know what those other religious
standards are but suspect they all promote sound social and personal values.
Thoughts please?
Twilight Hue
Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
I understand and agree with this idea as a religious person.
I think it's suggesting something not all that dissimilar from John Lennon's famous "imagine" song.
It might have surprised both of them to know that a German-Polish mystical poet belonging to the Catholic Faith (indeed he was a bit of a Catholic zealot to be honest), said substantially the same thing in the 17th century:
I encountered the sentiment expressed by the Marley quote in the OP many years ago from reading "The Cherubinic Wanderer" by Silesius, a series of mystical poems written as epigrams...
He pipped Bob Marley to the post by a few centuries
I think it's suggesting something not all that dissimilar from John Lennon's famous "imagine" song.
It might have surprised both of them to know that a German-Polish mystical poet belonging to the Catholic Faith (indeed he was a bit of a Catholic zealot to be honest), said substantially the same thing in the 17th century:
"...No thought for the hereafter
have the wise,
for on this very earth
they live in paradise.
All heaven's glory is within
and so is hell's fierce burning.
You must yourself decide
in which direction
you are turning
The vengeful God
of wrath and punishment
is a mere fairytale.
It simply is the Me
that makes me fail.
Don't think that some tommorrow
you'll see God's Light.
You see it now
or err in darkest night.
No wonder you despise
the mob's insanity.
All that it demonstrates
is inhumanity.
He whose treasure house is God,
his earth is paradise.
Why then call those
who make this earth a hell
the worldly wise?..."
Angelus Silesius (1624 - 1677), Catholic mystic and poet
have the wise,
for on this very earth
they live in paradise.
All heaven's glory is within
and so is hell's fierce burning.
You must yourself decide
in which direction
you are turning
The vengeful God
of wrath and punishment
is a mere fairytale.
It simply is the Me
that makes me fail.
Don't think that some tommorrow
you'll see God's Light.
You see it now
or err in darkest night.
No wonder you despise
the mob's insanity.
All that it demonstrates
is inhumanity.
He whose treasure house is God,
his earth is paradise.
Why then call those
who make this earth a hell
the worldly wise?..."
Angelus Silesius (1624 - 1677), Catholic mystic and poet
I encountered the sentiment expressed by the Marley quote in the OP many years ago from reading "The Cherubinic Wanderer" by Silesius, a series of mystical poems written as epigrams...
He pipped Bob Marley to the post by a few centuries
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I think that Bob Marley is speaking against the standards of Christianity.
Thanks. But why single out Christian standards one wonders?
(Bob Marley of music fame?)