“How can we resist the temptation to look at pornograph ?

[Me Myself]

Well, pornography can become an addiction for some people. Do you realize that?

Anything can become an addiction.

Including this forum.

 

[Me Myself]

And what of the studies that show that easily accessible porn reduces the amount of sexual assaults?
Proof that Internet porn prevents rape.

I have more, on book, but I can try and find more online resources, if you want them.

Interesting. Hope to see more

 

[Riverwolf]

Doing drugs isn't bad for everyone, either.

Hence why many of them are used medicinally in very controlled quantities.

But porn and drugs aren't comparable in themselves, because one is substantial while the other is conceptual.

Just because addictive behavior and what should be classified as compulsive behavior are similar (not exactly the same, mind), doesn't mean the substance being addicted to, or the activity compulsively engaged in, are to be regarded as universally bad.

Porn compulsion is far more comparable to, as I keep reiterating, video game compulsion.

 

[Riverwolf]

I didn't claim the site was unbiased. That site presents one aspect of criticism of pornography. It can be criticized in many ways - religious, health, leftist, feminist, etc. critiques. All make various valid points.

Too bad horroble isn't her. She could give us a great radical feminist critique of porn.

Hey, both me and Moonwater are pro-porn feminists.

 

[Saint Frankenstein]

Hey, both me and Moonwater are pro-porn feminists.

That's nice. I'm not.

 

[Riverwolf]

It was an interesting article, but the site itself isn't by professionals:

From the "About Us": About Us | Your Brain On Porn



And they even state that therapists "need educating": Educating Your Therapist | Your Brain On Porn



Not that it's bad advice, since sometimes professionals can be out of touch. But it does suggest that the site may have bias.

Now, to be fair, the linked article references a study done by Cambridge University, which has repute.

The actual study was also linked to:

PLOS ONE: Neural Correlates of Sexual Cue Reactivity in Individuals with and without Compulsive Sexual Behaviours

Reading through the abstract, the problem being described is hardly universal, and so not useful as a judgment of porn itself.

 

[Smart_Guy]

The religious teachings in my beliefs to resist general unwanted sexual desires (as it goes in my belief's definition) are:
1- To get married as soon as possible so there will be a moral way to fulfill that desire.
2- To fast (I mean the Islamic intense fasting), as feeding hunger is normally stronger than feeding sexual desires, and that knowing looking at porn hurts the creditability of fasting.

I personally suggest spending time with the family and friends, practicing sports, playing video games (that has no porn heh), watching cartoon (but not hentai haha), bang your head against the wall... wait, that last one came out wrong please ignore it.

 

[Sunstone]

There are people who condemn visual porn but do not condemn verbal porn. Who hate the "men's mag", but love romance novels.

 

[Guitar's Cry]

Now, to be fair, the linked article references a study done by Cambridge University, which has repute.

The actual study was also linked to:

PLOS ONE: Neural Correlates of Sexual Cue Reactivity in Individuals with and without Compulsive Sexual Behaviours

Reading through the abstract, the problem being described is hardly universal, and so not useful as a judgment of porn itself.

Right, and I did enjoy the article. Thanks for the link!

 

[Guitar's Cry]

There are people who condemn visual porn but do not condemn verbal porn. Who hate the "men's mag", but love romance novels.

I wonder if that's because it takes more work to read. Hard to be compulsive or addictive with all them words!

Plus, the erotic literature doesn't have real people. No one is actually doing anyone else in them.

Doubleplus, people who read erotica are women. Therefore, it can't be anti-feminist.

That's all kind of tongue in cheek, but I think that visual porn does get a badder rap than the literature since it doesn't involve actual people or sex. Since sex has been historically behind closed doors, actually seeing it is shocking for some people and has the flavor of being forbidden (and thus harmful).

I wonder if auditory porn would have the same stigma. There are sites cropping up featuring only the auditory aspects of porn, such as the vocalizations of orgasms.

 

[samosasauce]

Okie dokie. Sounds like fair advice for those who don't wish to see it

 

[BSM1]

Anything can become an addiction.

Including this forum.

That's ridiculous. I can leave this forum anytime I wish. I...uh...just don't don't wish to at the moment. Please don't make me leave.

 

[TashaN]

**MOD POST**

Thread has been moved to General Religious Debates​

 

[sojourner]

Except craving heroin isn't natural. Seeking sexual gratification, on the other hand, is about as natural as it comes for human behavior.
I too say why resist? An active imagination and a brief trip to fantasy land is a good thing.

But, like heroin, it is harmful, because participation in it fosters its propagation, and it is nothing more than objectification of human beings, which is violence.

 

[outhouse]

If he were trying to resist heroin would you give him the same advice?

In todays overpopulated world, this is a positive thing.

In todays world where sex is deadly, this is a positive thing.


Red herring fallacy since there is no real comparison to either

 

[outhouse]

“How can we resist the temptation to look at pornography?.

Either you have willpower or you dont. Sounds like you dont if you need help.

This "resist" is a personal opinion of yours.

Three helpful steps are

Not helpful.

1)*Quickly averting our view if we are exposed to erotic imagery.

The devil did it RUN!!!!! dont look

:biglaugh:

(2)*Guarding our thoughts by focusing on positive things and praying to God.

You mean ignoring it.

That is what most adults do that choose not to view.

(3)*Guarding our step by avoiding films or Web sites that contain pornography

Ignoring, the adult choice :fox:

 

[viole]

“How can we resist the temptation to look at pornography?
Three helpful steps are (1)*Quickly averting our view if we are exposed to erotic imagery.

If you avert your view, then you are fighting an already available temptation, which is self defeating. You will have no temptation only when you are able to watch erotic images with the same feelings you have when you watch a documentary about Chinese medieval theater. I mean, who is tempted to watch that?

(2)*Guarding our thoughts by focusing on positive things and praying to God.

You think erotic images are negative? And imagine poor God: oh Ourselves, another one disturbing the three of Us with his/her prayers because he/she saw some tits on his/her laptop while we were busy answering children cancer related prayers.

(3)*Guarding our step by avoiding films or Web sites that contain pornography.

My old taunt surfs all day and never managed to land on an erotic site, allegedly.
So, I think it needs a certain effort to land on a sex site. Does it happen often with you?

My suggestion is to stick with the Bible channel and Walt Disney, if you think that Mickey Mouse kissing Minnie is OK.

Ciao

- viole

 

[Guitar's Cry]

But, like heroin, it is harmful, because participation in it fosters its propagation, and it is nothing more than objectification of human beings, which is violence.

What human industry currently doesn't do that? How much of our everyday lives includes products that were created in poor working conditions, or made from raw materials that takes human lives and health to gather?

The very idea of consumerism is based on using human beings as a commodity--objects for profit. What concerned consumers need to do is foster the growth of companies that are socially responsible, like fair trade coffee or using recycled products.

For those who watch porn, though, identifying with the actors and actresses is often part of the enjoyment. It's harder for me to get turned on by overproduced pornography because I simply can't identify with what's going on.

 

[outhouse]

Teach this to people in africa, and maybe aids and ebola would not run rampant

 

[Riverwolf]

But, like heroin, it is harmful, because participation in it fosters its propagation, and it is nothing more than objectification of human beings, which is violence.

It's not necessarily objectification, and objectification is not in itself violence.

Objectification involves removing a person's personhood; the woman is nothing but a sex toy, to be used and discarded. Porn that does this can do a lot of harm, because while objectification is not in itself violent, it can lead quite easily to violence.

But not all porn objectifies people. There is porn where the people involved are clearly respected as people. Not all instances of sexual depictions are objectification, any more than any other type of human visual depiction. If anything, ads for clothing are far more objectifying than a lot of porn out there.