“How can we resist the temptation to look at pornograph ?

[xkatz]

How can we resist the temptation to look at pornography

Simple- Don't look at it.
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[Riverwolf]

Resisting such a temptation altogether will just make it stronger. It's a Chinese Finger Trap.

Controlled exposure, along with exposure to other forms of sexual expression and education on these matters, can help keep problems from arising. Obviously people with addictive personalities should keep such strictures more strongly than others, although I don't think pornography is so much addictive as it is compulsive (in the same way that video games are not addictive, but compulsive). Comparing porn to recreational drugs is inappropriate; comparing it to other forms of entertainment is far more appropriate. For me, gambling is the type of entertainment I avoid, because I could easily see myself developing a problem very fast, based on my behavior as a child, and the way I play gambling mini-games in video games. And a gambling problem is potentially far more practically dangerous than a porn problem.

Sex is as basic a need for the psyche as food is for the body, except in the case of asexuals who don't have sex drives, anyway.

 

[Saint Frankenstein]

I'm sick of porn, myself. It's depressing. But I'm so horny thanks to the testosterone therapy and so I'm like a teenage boy. I really wish I had a girlfriend. Masturbating and watching porn is so empty and sad.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

My only issue with people is that they do not explore porn, they may find something they like in real life. I am not even sexual and there are certain things in porn, especially hentai that amuse me.
I happened to appreciate erotic themes because I actually gave porn a chance .

...Mew

I found out I'm fascinated by ropes and being tied up and tying up my partner when I was reading a manga that had portraits of people tied up in sexual positions and I found it to be very exhilarating and appealing. Only thing is, I haven't found anyone to see if I find the act as much of a turn on as the images and thoughts.

 

[Sha'irullah]

I found out I'm fascinated by ropes and being tied up and tying up my partner when I was reading a manga that had portraits of people tied up in sexual positions and I found it to be very exhilarating and appealing. Only thing is, I haven't found anyone to see if I find the act as much of a turn on as the images and thoughts.

I heavily enjoy the BDSM stuff, I would not do it with anybody though as it would feel awkward. I just love savoring the emotions of others and although I have never had a partner of any kind it interests me now but I am not making any efforts at all.

...mew

 

[Sha'irullah]

Do you find a need to explore heroin? You might find something you like. In fact I guarantee you will find something you like.

Heroin unlike porn physically and psychologically harms people and others around them. I would not recommend it to anybody

 

[Saint Frankenstein]

Yeah. No one is harmed by consensual porn (especially when it's animated), and whose to judge as long as it doesn't harm anyone?

That's not true. Awhile back, I posted two posts that refutes that and everyone ignored them. I can go find them for you if you wish?

 

[Thruve]

After I watch porn, and I finish, I tell myself "pshh.. All that for this? K moving on", to hopefully not watch it again cause it's useless. Next day.. It happens again... So idk

 

[Saint Frankenstein]

After I watch porn, and I finish, I tell myself "pshh.. All that for this? K moving on", to hopefully not watch it again cause it's useless. Next day.. It happens again... So idk

Yeah, that's how I feel. It's depressing.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

I'm sick of porn, myself. It's depressing. But I'm so horny thanks to the testosterone therapy and so I'm like a teenage boy. I really wish I had a girlfriend. Masturbating and watching porn is so empty and sad.

For the most part, I think porn is funny. Farting sounds during a blow job, corny-as-hell lines (I think she likes it, Mr. whateverhisnamewas), feeble attempts at a plot, and no shortage of actors who look like "this sucks, I hate my job, where's my money?"

 

[Saint Frankenstein]

Porn is also having an effect of warping people's views of relationships, especially men and kids who are raised in our pornofied culture:

How Porn Is Affecting the Libido of the American Male -- New York Magazine
Why Learning About Sex From the Web Comes With Drawbacks -- New York Magazine
This is Rape Culture | Ex-Pornstars on the Porn Industry

Personally, the problem isn't so much that sexually explicit videos and pictures exist but the industry and the message it is putting out. There is a lot of exploitation and abuse in the porn industry. Many porn actresses have been victims of sexual abuse (for example, Jenna Jameson, who was raped as a young girl) and they are abused on set. They are many clips of women freaking out during porn shoots, crying, saying "no" and being abused. Drug abuse and alcoholism is rampant, as are physical injuries especially to the vagina and anus. Suicide and suicide attempts is also not a rarity, same with STDs. They also put out sexist, racist, homophobic and transphobic messages, as it is a reflection of our disgusting, bigoted culture. It is turning sex into a mere commodity with no humanity left in it. It makes sex ugly and robotic.

At the root of it, besides the socially-ingrained bigotries it reinforces, is the plague of capitalist consumerism that mass markets it. It is the same problem as with the music industry making art into into a bland commodity and the fashion industry abusing its models (for example, Terry Richardson's abuse of models and the fashion industry's complacency in it) and spreading negative messages about body images. It's all fake and hurting our perceptions of ourselves and others.

I'll be honest, I do watch porn because I have no other sexual outlet and I'm very sexually frustrated and lonely. I'd much rather have real human companionship and someone to make love to, however, than a cheap and fake alternative.

Original post: http://www.religiousforums.com/forum/3851884-post40.html

 

[Saint Frankenstein]

Capitalist consumerism causes the least common denominator to rise to the top. Look at most entertainment - it's vapid and soulless. Look at the Top 40 charts. Mostly boring autotuned garbage that all sounds the same. Look at the fashion industry - mostly a bunch of starving waifs with coke problems wearing the skins of brutalized animals or clothes made by sweatshop slaves in third world countries and that is considered elite haute couture fashion that you would be robbed of in some areas for wearing. With capitalism, there are no ethics. Whatever they can mass produce and cook up an ad campaign for is good enough, no matter how damaging or mediocre it is.

With most porn, it plays up to our most base ideas of what sex is and what the relationship is between men and women and people of different ethnicities. It does not present a healthy and natural view of sex. It's mostly fake and presents caricatures of people. Women with fake bleached blonde hair, huge breast implants and other plastic surgery, fakely moaning ecstatically while being roughly rammed in all orifices and drenched in bodily fluids. Men with giant penises (or penises that are made to look huge through camera angle tricks) and bodybuilder physiques or men who are fat slobs screwing pretty young girls (Ron Jeremy, for example). Porn is also very racist, playing on the long-held racist notion of black men being ravenous animals with giant penises who prey on "innocent" petite, pale, blonde, blue eyed white girls (apparently the biggest market for that sort of porn is actually white men).

Yes, there is porn that is actually woman friendly, romantic and passionate and porn that presents a healthier view of sexuality and a wider range of bodies. But that's not the porn that sells. That's not the porn that people are watching. Industries based around consumerism do not support that which is "higher" and most beautiful in humanity. Industries based around profit must make their product sell to the highest number of people at the least cost to themselves. The way to do that is simple psychology. You play on people's insecurities and prejudices, whether subconscious or not. Sexism, racism, homophobia, transphobia, fatphobia, etc. are all deeply ingrained in Western society so the stage is already set for those things to play out in our sexual relations. Pornography is mirroring what is already in us and selling it back to us. Sometimes it's like the case of the chicken and the egg. One thing's for sure, though, our society is very sick and disturbed.

Industries like pornography also prey on the economically disadvantaged and those who have been abused. If you're poor or broke, it's all too easy to get sucked into porn. Many porn actresses and actors get into it because they need the money. We've all heard the stereotypes of young girls with dreams who move out to LA with dreams of becoming a Hollywood actress, but fail and end up sucked into Hollywood's nasty sibling. It's much the same reason as why people become strippers, escorts or full-blown hookers. Porn also draws a large amount of rape victims because they are used to being treated like dirt and their already unhealthy view of themselves and sex fits perfectly with much of porn, which is degrading, humiliating, objectifying and exploitative. Those people simply go into dissociative states during porn shoots. I have seen this in clips and seen porn actresses mention it.

Industries like pornography and the modeling industry are built on people's self-hatred and their fantasies of what they wish they looked like and acted like. Most of us don't like our bodies to one degree or another. All of us have envied someone else for their looks (which confer social status in this culture) and felt insecure about ours. We feel too fat, too hairy, our breasts are too small, our penises are too small, our hair is not straight enough, our eyes are not blue enough, our skin is not light enough, our skin is not smooth enough, our muscles are not toned enough, etc. So we will spend huge amounts of cash in order to artificially acquire the traits that we so covet.

Humans are social animals. We all want to fit in and be accepted. The entertainment industry takes these simple social instincts and turns it around, makes it ugly and blows it out of proportion. So now we not only want to be accepted, we want to be "cool", rich and famous because that is how our culture says our value is measured by. We will throw our dignity out of the window to become this distorted image. We will destroy ourselves to do so. After all, everyone wants to be a somebody and nobody wants to be a nobody. And who are we but nobodies?

Original post: http://www.religiousforums.com/forum/3852140-post79.html

 

[Saint Frankenstein]

Now let's see if they'll be ignored again.

 

[CynthiaCypher]

Heroin ... physically and psychologically harms people and others around them.

And so can porn.

 

[Guitar's Cry]

That's not true. Awhile back, I posted two posts that refutes that and everyone ignored them. I can go find them for you if you wish?

Sure! I remember a psychology professor in college who argued with me about this, suggesting that pornography creates unrealistic expectations for sex and body image. I can understand that, but even that is changing in pornography; I personally enjoy amateur pornography more than professional. And another way to counter this is by suggesting that an unrealistic expectation is like any other fantasy that has to be blended with reality.

Actually, a lot of the roleplay fantasies with my wife come from porn, and the roleplay is certainly a healthy expression of our marital union.

 

[CynthiaCypher]

Now let's see if they'll be ignored again.

People generally hate evidence and facts and stuff like that...

 

[Saint Frankenstein]

People generally hate evidence and facts and stuff like that...

I'll wait.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

That's not true. Awhile back, I posted two posts that refutes that and everyone ignored them. I can go find them for you if you wish?

If you notice, I did add "consensual" before porn. Of course not all porn is consensual, but there are some who just plug in a web cam and start broadcasting and making money.

 

[Saint Frankenstein]

If you notice, I did add "consensual" before porn. Of course not all porn is consensual, but there are some who just plug in a web cam and start broadcasting and making money.

How are you defining "consent"? Is a broke person having to resort to sex work to pay the bills really "consenting"? Is agreeing to shoot porn but then the producer changes what they want from you on the set and, say, bringing in a couple of big guys to DP you or making you do anal, and if you don't do it you don't get paid, really "consent"?

I think this needs to be clearly defined.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

And what of the studies that show that easily accessible porn reduces the amount of sexual assaults?
Proof that Internet porn prevents rape.

Does pornography breed rape? Do violent movies breed violent crime? Quite the opposite, it seems.

I have more, on book, but I can try and find more online resources, if you want them.