TB37, if you can't understand or want to see why some translators use the word 'son' there at Acts 20:28, and frankly, you're saying they are all wrong, there is no use to go into the other scriptures with you now. :-) Have a good day.
You are having to add in extra words that aren't there to maintain your doctrine.
Is the Son the Saviour? Because YHWH said there was no Saviour beside him - Isaiah 43:11 and Hosea 13:4
Looking for that blessed hope, and the glorious appearing of the great God and our Saviour ...
Who gave...
We're talking about the author of Mark's take on this matter. I haven't checked the others on baptism, but they disagree on many things, and possibly that's one of them.
In my opinion, that's exactly what they say. Mark is the first purported biography of Jesus (whereas Paul's earthly bio of...
Thanks for clarifying.
Baptism in symbol of repentance of sins - not a washing away of sins. Jehovah is the one who forgives, or washes away sins, according to the scriptures.
Did the scriptures say Jesus got baptized to wash away his sins, or to repent of his sins?
No. The scriptures do not...
Thanks for your post!! Great questions!! Thank you my friend.
One of the things that we have to understand about in scripture is God manifestation. God manifesting Himself in someone or a multitude. He did that with Jesus, angels, prophets, etc. But... it doesnt make them God. God...
I believe there are 141x when "en" was translated as by. i.e. Acts 20:19 (But since I am not a Greek expert, I won't argue that the primary meaning is not in.) However, you have to deal with some other verses anyway. So let's look at some others.
All things came into being through him, and...
1. Everything seems peachy on the surface but worship is based off positions and authority. You cannot worship someone lesser the same way or before someone greater. God is worthy of being worshiped as God. Anointed of God is worthy of being worshiped as Anointed of God but that does not mean...
Alternatively, here are three referenced syllogisms!
P1. God alone is worthy of worship [Exodus 20:3,5; Rev. 22:8,9]
P2. Jesus Christ is worthy of worship [John 9:38; John 20:28; Rev. 5:13,14]
C. Therefore, Jesus Christ is God. [1Tim.6:14,15 > Rev. 17:14]
P1. God alone saves from sin and...
Since you are the one asserting it is about something more, the onus is on you to prove why we should believe your claim.
The Bible clearly tells us what Jesus's actions were for and why. If you want to try to add something to that you're going to need to provide some facts or logic that would...
I'm quoting it. It's also the Anglo/Pisco view, and I dare say the default theology of many Trinitarian churches. It follows directly from the original 4th century doctrine and is Trinity orthodoxy.
Which church or churches share your view? Can you refer me to a corresponding theological...
I’m getting the feeling that our exchange has been somewhat moot. I think we see the same thing, but our minds just interpret it differently. And earthly communication is not as perfect as spiritual, so we struggle. I look forward to taking up further discussions with you in heaven.
You are parroting the Roman Catholic view of the Trinity. I have described a different view in this thread that you obviously failed to read, or were unable to grasp.
You are the created whining because you find that the Creator does not fit within the little box of your mind.
You make...
I'm happy to be more helpful in this context. Consider the following:
Paul uses a number of expressions to describe Jesus Christ as GOD, e.g.:
Col 1:15 – "who is the image of the invisible God"
2 Cor 4:4 – "Christ who is the image of God"
Phil 2:6 – "Who being in the form of God did not...
On the whole, I do not believe in these scriptures Because I think that some of the additions are human
Because they oppose my logic
Abraham sent Ismail to Mecca and commanded him to worship one God without Jesus or Trinity As well as Isaac and Jacob and I wanted to follow this path
I do not...
Are you looking at human opinions and interpretations, or what the Bible says? What do you think is the wise thing to do?
The scriptures do say that Christ died for our sins. Do you not see that as well?
Isaiah 53:5, 12; Matthew 20:28; John 1:29, 30; Romans 5:17; Romans 6:10; Philippians 2:5-8...
I disagree. I think the Way is the core. Arguing about what color sweater God was wearing is how I feel about the Trinity and other such dogmas that are completely irrelevant to the Way, which is about how we interact with ourselves and others.
But this is false, because the bible itself...
Conscripted Tanakh texts don't count here. They had ONE God, and Jesus taught Tanakh = ONE GOD. No trinity.
Luke 2:11 says savior which in this verse equals the awaited Jewish Messiah, not God/YHVH.
As for Titus it is interesting that AND OUR is left out. Two different beings.
KJV Tit 2:13...
According to the scriptures there is One God, One Savior and Jesus is that Savior, God who came to the earth and became flesh.
I, even I, am the Lord, And besides Me there is no savior. Isaiah 34:11
Tell and bring forth your case; Yes, let them take counsel together. Who has declared this from...
This is a continuation of post 995 on page 50 regarding Romans 9:5
whose are the patriarchs and from whom is the Christ according to the flesh who is over all God blessed forever Amen
More examples in support of Romans 9:5 claim.
Jesus is the preexistent Divine Son of God
There are...
Yet for us there is but one God, the Father, from whom all things came and for whom we live; and there is but one Lord, Jesus Christ, through whom all things came and through whom we live. 1 Corinthians 8.6