Your very welcome. Did you notice the word 'nothingness' as one of the translations. From a spiritual perspective, one could argue, the mundane is nothing compared to the holy.
The context is Mt. Sinai, God is revealing itself to the entire nation and the mixed multitude simultaneously...
Thanks for that. It's reasonable to think of things that are false as being worthless.
Yes, it's appropriate to consider the intent. To determine the intent one has to first identify the context.
Context: Jerusalem, candle, settled, inaction.
O Lord, hear; O Lord, forgive; O Lord, hearken and...
I think Quakers are amazing people (I have an extended family relationship from my son's wife that is a Quaker).
I would hold to this position:
Proverbs20:27
The spirit of man is the candle of the Lord, searching all the inward parts of the belly.
The word "spirit" is not the same word as...
OK. That makes sense. :thumbsup: Thanks for answering the question.
Very informative. Thank you.
OK :)
OK. 'Person' in verse 20 and 'life' is verse 27 is consistent.
Change my trust? Probably not. Not because of a topic like this. But, I think it's important to know precisely what's...
I agree, it's not one meaning exclusively. Hence we consider the context.
So, it may be best to see if we are understanding the word in the right way, so that the context helps us get the correct understanding of the text.
Here, you can see, a number of different translations.
Isaiah 57:16
New...
As you said, the same word can have two or more meanings. I'm saying yes, it appears to mean breath in many places. But it can't be exclusively breath, Proverbs20:27, and animals can breath without it. That's it, 2 reasons.
If I look it up, the word is listed as spirit or soul, not as the...
So you aren't considering the meaning of the word? You are saying it does not mean breath?
Which verse is that... Proverbs 13:9?
So writers do not make application to various things, in their book?
That's consistent.
Why do you say it's not?
Are you saying these words cannot be used...
Sure it's at the bottom on the page you linked to. They're referencing the Brown-Driver-Briggs. Strong's says Proverbs20:27 is "spirit of man" not "breath of man"
Here's the JW translation:
I still don't get how breath is a lamp, nor how breath searches. It just doesn't fit.
Actually...
I'm not seeing that. Can you point out where JWs translation disagrees with Strong's?
For sure. As Hebrew words have more than one meaning.
Can you provide at least three of those verses?
You mean Proverbs 13:9.
Proverbs 13:7 does not mention light, or lamp.
Have you given consideration to the...
A perfectly fair question. Not really, but then per JW translation, Strong's is wrong too. So we've both brought sources which aren't super reputable on this one.
I'm not sure. That's what I'm trying to figure out.
Agreed. This is all about ruach. We're talking about neshama.
Yes. As I'm...
Proverbs20:27 uses the same word as Genesis 2:7.
Gen 2:7
זוַיִּ֩יצֶר֩ יְהֹוָ֨ה אֱלֹהִ֜ים אֶת־הָֽאָדָ֗ם עָפָר֙ מִן־הָ֣אֲדָמָ֔ה וַיִּפַּ֥ח בְּאַפָּ֖יו נִשְׁמַ֣ת חַיִּ֑ים וַיְהִ֥י הָֽאָדָ֖ם לְנֶ֥פֶשׁ חַיָּֽה
KJV: And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his...
The life force is our spirit. The idea that we have a spirit is shown in scripture after scriptures, especially in the New Testament. The spirit did not go out, like a candle, it goes back to God to care of until the resurrection. The spirit is more than a life force and this is also shown in...
At the death of the body the bodily life goes but the spirit part, the soul is not killed then. What is the soul in Matt 10:28?
You are right when you say that they don't know what is happening on earth, but that does not mean that they do not have torment in their soul from what they did in...
In modern Christian preaching that is the narrow idea of original sin that is put forward, but I think the doctrine is not stuck there. We aren't stuck with whatever the partially trained monkeys say. Their parroted words about original sin could use some better grounding, some polish and...
compassion seems to come from many seemingly different things but it still has only one result. it lifts the suffering up, like nehushtan in the desert. it lifts the human spirit.
Proverbs20:27
The human spirit is the lamp of the Lord that sheds light on one’s inmost being.
in revelation it...
There are points in my life where I have looked at myself and realized that I have been completely wrong, despite my efforts to be right. My efforts are not enough, and my eyes are not enough. This author of 1 Corinthians is drawing upon much older lessons about the inner being probably drawn...
I'm going to do the opposite of what I normally would do. I'm going to start in the front of the Bible and go backward to show that the new reasoning is now new but actually old and comes from the Jewish scriptures, mostly if not in its entirety. First look at James, which is very short and...
Let us expand the verse from 1 to 3
1 John 4:1-3 New International Version (NIV)
Dear friends, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God, because many false prophets have gone out into the world. This is how you can recognize the Spirit of God: Every...