What it DOES show, is that he prostrated in worship to the One G-d.
The OT also talks about those that bow and prostrate in worship.
i.e. It is not only in the Qur'an
Well, that is a contradiction, isn't it. That is more or less saying that Jesus was "a lesser version of God".
It also implies...
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I think people can do good things and be good sometimes, but never be completely good at all times, as Jesus, the Son of God is completely good.
I’m not sure why you included the passage from Matthew, unless you mean to show that because Jesus fell on His face prostrated this somehow shows...
Paul's Jesus (like John's but not like the synoptic Jesuses) pre-existed in heaven with God. Since Paul (and the author of John) make it clear that Jesus denies he's God and makes no claim of that kind, I'd say this means, existed in heaven with God.
Did not challenge God's authority.
But put...
Again, you misunderstand the dual nature of Christ as prophesied (Isaiah 52:13-15) and which is highlighted again by the apostle Paul in Phillipians 2:6-8.
6Who, existing in the form of God, did not consider equality with God something to be grasped,a
7but emptied Himself, taking the form of a...
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In other words, I must 'follow the *known* narrative' and never question what the 'authorities' have decreed. Got it.
Indeed, I had Seventh Day Adventists in mind when I used the phrase 'completely annihilates...
Yokefellow, i was going to reply to all of your original post on this thread, however, after reading through some of the posts above, its pointless.
Whether or not you are willing to accept my criticism or not, your entire theology in this thread is deeply deficient in the presumptions that it...
We are all spiritual beings having a human experience. But we started out in time, Jesus already lived from the eternal past. When humans die our bodies return to dust, we are unconscious until the resurrection in heaven. Jesus was still conscious after the death of his body because his spirit...
Since we are using scriptures, please quote the scripture(s) that says this.
"The Word became flesh". Thank you.
Not the Word became "spirit in man".
That is John 1:14
Jesus was never "spirit in man".
Philippians2:7 says, No, but he emptied himself and took a slave’s form and became human...
1) I'm of the conviction that the FATHER, SON, and the HOLY SPIRIT are three distinct persons who collectively are ONE ESSENCE that is revealed as ONE GOD. They never act of their own volition.
2) I believe that there were things that the FATHER was aware of, yet apparently was unknown to...
101G, what is the FORM of God?
Does God have a Form… Does SPIRIT have a Form?
Perhaps you meant to say that Jesus was in the mindset of God… Afterall, Jesus agreed with his Father, God: YHWH. That means that Jesus would:
THINK LIKE God
ACT LIKE God
DO LIKE GOD
because the SPIRIT from God was...
To many, not all
for those who believe in a trinity of persons of God, QUESTION. "how much of the Spirit was in Christ when he G2758 κενόω kenoo (ke-no-ō'). himself while in flesh?". for if he's separate and distinct, as many say, and God is only "ONE" Spirit, so, how much of the Spirit was...
Did you not read the context:
3Do nothing out of selfish ambition or empty pride, but in humility consider others more important than yourselves. 4Each of you should look not only to your own interests, but also to the interests of others.5Let this mind be in you which was also in Christ Jesus...
U can sit down somewhere.
ERROR... LOL< LOL< LOL< don't be silly.... Oh dear. listen and Learn, Philippians 2:6 "Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God:" (now listen carefully) Philippians2:7 "But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of...
sure, he's an ECHAD of himself, in Ordinal designations of First Father, and Last, Son. simply put a DIVERSITY/OFFSPRING of himself in flesh. see Phil 26: (smile), or Revelation 22:16 :cool:.
second you asked, "and why would he conceive himself?" did 101G say that? this is the main problem...
Why would I base my theology on the language of a people who didn't even have a handy alphabet available before they started trading with the Phoenicians?
because of the people IGNORANCE, in his SALVATION, Listen and Learn. Luke 23:26 "And as they led him away, they laid hold upon one Simon, a Cyrenian, coming out of the country, and on him they laid the cross, that he might bear it after Jesus." Luke 23:27 "And there followed him a great company...
To my Hebrew and Jewish friends. instead of coming together, or joining, to make a ECHAD of God, consider this, "emanation". supportive scripture, John 8:42 "Jesus said unto them, If God were your Father, ye would love me: for I proceeded forth and came from God; neither came I of myself, but he...
I don't understand the question "how much of the ONE Spirit was made Empty, for one of the compound unity person to come or manifest in flesh. for the person was in the Form of God, Spirit. "
All this sounds a bit complex, the way you are trying to argue it. Isn't it better to go with the...
the term "WITH" means the SAME one person in Phil 2:6. and the term "ANOTHER" means the SAME person as used in G243 Allos. supportive scripture. Isaiah 63:5 "And I looked, and there was none to help; and I wondered that there was none to uphold: therefore mine own arm brought salvation unto me...