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Search results for query: "Ephesians 6:9"

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  1. Left Coast

    God is Holy, Man is fallen and needs salvation

    This, again, is an excuse. When you tell slaves to obey their masters and not to seek freedom from slavery, that's endorsement. Christian leaders had no problem telling Christians to do things differently from others when it came to things they truly objected to. Why are you spending so much...
  2. U

    God is Holy, Man is fallen and needs salvation

    NT was Not endorsing the slave-trade business but the circumstances of that time - Ephesians 6:9; Colossians 4:1 That 'Day' (thousand-year day ) will come. Come because we are in the last days of the last days of badness on Earth 2 Timothy 3 Come because we are at the final international phase...
  3. Shadow Wolf

    Lifestyle Changes Won't Help

    Nor did they deserve to be abducted and forced to "marry" some bloke who just partook in slaughtering her community. That is evil. Slavery is slavery. Owning someone as property is wrong no matter how you try to dress it up. It affirms slavery and commands Christian slaves to serve especially...
  4. U

    Lifestyle Changes Won't Help

    Thank you for your reply. I find the word ' wife ' at Deuteronomy 21:11 ( 'wife' is marriage and Not adultery or fornication ) Those ' war brides ', so to speak, did Not deserve to be put to death. They would have been in dire straits without a husband. Under the Mosaic Law each woman was...
  5. Nimos

    Can God be moral?

    Think I completely missed your point on this one, tried reading it several times. So correct me if I misunderstood you. But to me it seems like you are arguing that being a slave is only a temporary position and that eventually they will be free? But I don't really see how that relate to the...
  6. halbhh

    Can God be moral?

    Good question, and one that often comes up. Most people haven't read very fully in the new testament, and so aren't able to completely understand the instruction given about remaining slaves (that it is temporary). Even the full passage quotes (below) are not yet enough to show that: 5...
  7. Skwim

    "Creationist: Churches Should Hoard Toilet Paper and Preach to Those Who Want It"

    Exodus 20:22 (ESV) And the Lord said to Moses . . . . . . . .Exodus 21 Laws About Slaves 1"Now these are the rules that you shall set before them. 2 When you buy a Hebrew slave, he shall serve six years, and in the seventh he shall go out free, for nothing. 4 If his master gives him a wife...
  8. halbhh

    What morals and ethics do Christians and other religions follow over time?

    We wish we could say slavery is ended today, in 2020. But it continues around the world - Slavery in the 21st century - Wikipedia "Estimates of the number of slaves today range from around 21 million[1] to 46 million..." What we see in the bible is the work to change us so that we actually...
  9. Skwim

    Did Jesus Commit Suicide?

    God also condoned slavery, Ephesians 6:9 9 And masters, treat your slaves in the same way. Do not threaten them, since you know that he who is both their Master and yours is in heaven, and there is no favoritism with him. so should people enslave others? I don't think so. I think god is wrong...
  10. Skwim

    Divorce Rates for Conservative Christians Higher than for Atheists

    Good grief, not the old "They ain't no Christian unless they is believin' as I do" canard again. :rolleyes: I presume then that you go along with the ownership of slaves. The New Testament makes no condemnation of slavery and does no more than admonish slaves to be obedient and their...
  11. dybmh

    Slavery in the bible

    Are any of these direct quotes from Jesus? It looks like these are disciples, correct?
  12. Subduction Zone

    Slavery in the bible

    It should have included slaves, but for some odd reason the supposed omniscient God never made that clear. In fact if one reads the Gospel it is clear that it does not have an anti-slavery stance, in fact it too appears pro-slavery if anything. From the Wiki article on slavery in the Bible...
  13. exchemist

    Calvinism's Achille's Heel

    You are I think referring to the concept of "predestination". If you read this you will get a more nuanced view of it: Predestination - Wikipedia In the early church and the Middle Ages it seems the view was that God can have foreknowledge of what free choices an individual human being makes...
  14. iam1me

    Calvinism's Achille's Heel

    While there are a number of issues with Calvinism and Reformed Theology, let us discuss one of the most glaring errors of this school of thought. The idea that certain individuals have been specially selected for salvation while others have been selected by God for damnation - through no merit...
  15. Jollybear

    Does Your Religion Influence Your Work Ethic or How You Do Business?

    Absolutely. Ephesians 6 "5Slaves, obey your earthly masters with deep respect and fear. Serve them sincerely as you would serve Christ. 6Try to please them all the time, not just when they are watching you. As slaves of Christ, do the will of God with all your heart. 7Work with enthusiasm, as...
  16. BilliardsBall

    Works vs Doctrine

    Then let us ask a good question, based on favoritism: If God hates when the innocent are punished and the guilty set free, why was the innocent Christ crucified?
  17. iam1me

    Works vs Doctrine

    Favoritism is about being partial to people, especially but not limited to the context of judging people. For instance, when looking to hire a new manager, favoring your friends and family over more qualified candidates. Letting someone who is rich/famous/powerful off the hook for a serious...
  18. ImmortalFlame

    Christians who reject the old testament and slavery

    Irrelevant. The Bible instructs its followers on the process of buying, selling, trading and owning slaves. I've already explained that passage wasn't an instruction to ALL Hebrews, and that still doesn't justify enslavement of non-Hebrews or the loophole the Bible provides to allow to you...
  19. Subduction Zone

    Christians who reject the old testament and slavery

    You are still ignoring several facts. The Bible supports slavery by telling the Hebrews who they could keep slaves from. And only male Hebrew slaves were to be released. Not foreign slaves, they and their children were the property of the owner and could be passed on to the next generation...
  20. MJFlores

    Christians who reject the old testament and slavery

    I wouldn't embroil myself with an endless It was a beautiful exchange and it uncovered many truths: That Slavery existed even before the Bible was written https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slavery That the Bible did not promote Slavery and in fact ordered freeing of Hebrew slaves Jeremiah...
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