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Search results for query: "Colossians 1:14"

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  1. Trailblazer

    God is not a man

    The only fallacy is in the minds of Christians who believe that Jesus is God. John 14:9 does not mean that Jesus is God. It means that anyone who has seen Jesus has seen a reflection of God, a mirror image. Colossians 1 14 In whom we have redemption through his blood, even the forgiveness of...
  2. jimb

    Understanding the holy scriptures is impossible unless God gives you the interpretation

    So should I believe you or Jesus and/or John? Jesus said, in John 14:7, "If you really know me, you will know my Father as well. From now on, you do know him and have seen him.” Of course believing in God, the Trinity, the truth of Scripture, eternal life, etc. are all by faith. If they were...
  3. jimb

    Understanding the holy scriptures is impossible unless God gives you the interpretation

    You quote John 1:18, but you need to understand it in context. "No one has ever seen God. The only one, himself God, who is in closest fellowship with the Father, has made God known." This clearly means that no one has ever seen God the Father, but they have seen God the Son! See this -> John...
  4. jimb

    Who created all things: God or the Son?

    This is a roundabout way of claiming that Jesus is not God. God exists in three forms: the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit. One of these is visible: Jesus Christ; the other two are not. That is why Jesus said this: "If you have known me, you will know my Father too. And from now on you...
  5. Trailblazer

    Understanding the holy scriptures is impossible unless God gives you the interpretation

    You know that God exists by faith and so do I, but that is not the same as factual knowledge which is provable. They have seen the image of God, not God. An image is not that which it reflects. Colossians 1 14 In whom we have redemption through his blood, even the forgiveness of sins: 15...
  6. Sgt. Pepper

    Who created all things: God or the Son?

    And as you mentioned in the following thread yesterday, the Bible states that God is spirit. Understanding the holy scriptures is impossible unless God gives you the interpretation
  7. Trailblazer

    Who created all things: God or the Son?

    Please note that Colossians 1:15 says that God is invisible. Jesus was visible so that is one way we know that Jesus was not God. God became visible in Jesus and then Jesus manifested God. Jesus was a perfect reflection of God, a mirror image of God, but not God incarnate. Colossians 1 14 In...
  8. walt

    Why So Much Trinity Bashing?

    Actually I believe exactly like you just explained. I agree with you. John 5:19 So Jesus said to them, “Truly, truly, I say to you, the Son can do nothing of his own accord, but only what he sees the Father doing. For whatever the Father does, that the Son does likewise. I could not find Jesus...
  9. Trailblazer

    Why So Much Trinity Bashing?

    How does Jesus explain it? Can you show me any verses where Jesus said that He created all things? The verses below are not Jesus speaking. Colossians 1 14 In whom we have redemption through his blood, even the forgiveness of sins: 15 Who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of...
  10. Trailblazer

    What is God's highest priority?

    I don't care what Christians believe, they are wrong because they believe that Jesus is God. Even without the scriptures that show that Jesus is not God, on a purely logical basis we know that Jesus cannot be God. Certain attributes are unique to God. Only God is All-Powerful, All-Knowing...
  11. TransmutingSoul

    Why So Much Trinity Bashing?

    One can also consider that God is above descent. That is meaning of the story of the virgin birth. The Holy Spirit is pre-existing, the Holy Spirit is "Christ", it is all we can know of God, but it does no define God, the Holy Spirit defined Jesus as the Christ ( Annointed One). So even though...
  12. T

    Why So Much Trinity Bashing?

    In my view, there is no Trinity. There is no mention of it in the NT. The apostles never taught it. However John said even now are there many antichrists - they went out from us. 1 John 2:18-19 Some had gone out from the apostles and started teaching other things contrary to what the...
  13. T

    Who created all things: God or the Son?

    God is a Spirit. John 4:24 God's name was YHWH as revealed to Moses at the burning bush. Exodus 3:15 He (God/YHWH) created all things by himself. Isaiah 44:24 He later manifest himself in the flesh. (i.e. he took on a body) 1 Timothy 3:16 Messiah was the image (the body) of the...
  14. Trailblazer

    For trinity believers: Does your world come unravelled if Jesus is not God,but ONLY Gods Son?

    I have no problem answering that and I have already answered it here over a dozen times. Jesus said he that hath seen me hath seen the Father (John 14:9) because Jesus was a mirror image of His Father. Please note that Colossians 1:15 says that God is invisible. Jesus was visible so that is one...
  15. 1

    List of Jesus's mistakes, please.

    That is not "I am God". Bible tells Jesus is the image of God. If you have seen the image of the God, have you not seen God also? in whom we have our redemption, the forgiveness of our sins; who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of all creation... Colossians 1:14-16 I think...
  16. 3rdAngel

    "THE LORD'S DAY IS THE SABBATH DAY NOT SUNDAY ACCORDING TO SCRIPTURES

    Your response here... What did you need explained to you in the scriptures from the post you are quoting from? They speak for themselves they say Jesus is God and Jesus is the creator that disagree with your words of you quoting you saying Jesus is not the God of creation. Scripture is not as...
  17. Subduction Zone

    "THE LORD'S DAY IS THE SABBATH DAY NOT SUNDAY ACCORDING TO SCRIPTURES

    There is a problem with calling those quotes "God's word". Not even the Bible makes that mistake. Also I have never seen you deal with the even worse verses against your cause. The verses where Jesus says that he is not God. Lastly, please tone down the excessive use of "green ink". It can...
  18. Soapy

    "THE LORD'S DAY IS THE SABBATH DAY NOT SUNDAY ACCORDING TO SCRIPTURES

    Keep on pasting swathes of nonsense. It seems it’s the only thing you know to do. You never explain what you mean by any of the things you quote since doing so would expose that they are false. You post so much stuff that anyone attempting to try to reply to EVERYTHING would waste an enormity...
  19. 3rdAngel

    "THE LORD'S DAY IS THE SABBATH DAY NOT SUNDAY ACCORDING TO SCRIPTURES

    Or does it... JOHN 1:1-4; 14 1, 1, IN THE BEGINNING WAS THE WORD, AND THE WORD WAS WITH GOD, AND THE WORD WAS GOD. 2, THE SAME WAS IN THE BEGINNING WITH GOD. 3, ALL THINGS WERE MADE BY HIM; AND WITHOUT HIM WAS NOT ANY THING MADE THAT WAS MADE. 4, In him was life; and the life was the light of...
  20. 1

    Who created all things: God or the Son?

    I understand these scriptures so that Jesus is the mediator. Perhaps he could be called figuratively the right arm of God. ...all things have been created through him... Colossians 1:14-16 I can of myself do nothing. As I hear, I judge, and my judgment is righteous; because I don't seek my...
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