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Search results for query: "Amos 8:9"

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  1. Phin

    Who Or What Is Israel?

    I don't know if everyone's aware of this or not but Amos lays out the end of Israel as a people forever. It's interesting to note that Jesus tried to warn the Jews that Amos 8 was coming to pass when he said "ye know summer is nigh". Also interesting to note is that part of Amos 8's...
  2. joelr

    Would Jesus put up with the very wealthy and very poor?

    There are many historical writings about Herod outside of myths. However scholars are generally in consensus that his involvement in the gospel narratives is made up. " Historicity of Gospel narrative[edit] Due to the lack of historical evidence, it has been suggested that Jesus' trial by Herod...
  3. oldbadger

    Would Jesus put up with the very wealthy and very poor?

    Don't redirect me, Joel.......... YOur 'Yes' is adequate..... The Baptist was real. Next Step.... was Herod Antipas a real person? Yes...or NO? No he doesn't...... The Christian edits cover all the required junk for Christianity......... but G-Mark was about a real man who really did and...
  4. Miken

    Did Christianity Start with Jesus?

    Professor Stravopolou says nothing about Zoroastrianism. She talks about Persian influence on the evolution of Judaism which is certainly the case. Keep in mind that there were Persian religions older than Zoroastrianism, which was not yet dominant. The idea of angels may have come from the...
  5. joelr

    Did Christianity Start with Jesus?

    I don't know where exactly "sin" stands under other savior deities. Sin is usually a major part of all religions. In Hinduism it forms all ethics and morality and all sorts of concepts arise out of it. Jesus as a replacement for the annual magic blood atonement ritual as the ultimate one time...
  6. N

    Antecedent of Jesus' Death Narrative

    That isn't a prophecy of the crucifixion of jesus. It's supposedly the prophecy of the punishment of Israel for their sins against god. If you didn't cherry picked verses and instead read the whole thing in its context, you would've understood it as that. It even says it in verse 2. As usual...
  7. R

    Antecedent of Jesus' Death Narrative

    The only condition that a group and especially males as that brotherhood own that is predictable, was the fact that SCIENCE, the state of and all conditions SCIENCE was researched and applied by human males, on behalf of their owned human conscious thoughts. Therefore cause and effect of...
  8. Wandering Monk

    Antecedent of Jesus' Death Narrative

    If you look at the context of Amos, you will see that it has nothing to do with the crucifixion. It is only a Christian spin on the text. As for darkness at the crucifixion, sure it could have happened, but these accounts say nothing about the DATE of that darkening. Care to address the story...
  9. Spartan

    Antecedent of Jesus' Death Narrative

    Prove it. The darkened sun of Jesus' crucifixion day was foretold many centuries before Julius Caesar died. So, according to your logic, Virgil must have borrowed the idea from the Biblical prophet Amos. "According to Amos 1:1, (the prophet) Amos prophesied during the reigns of Uzziah, king...
  10. Dawnofhope

    The stars shall fall from heaven...

    I agree with your general approach of making references to Hebrew Scriptures that clearly use similar metaphors. Jesus throughout His Ministry uses allegorical stories and draws on Jewish Scriptures to convey spiritual truths. The themes of justice and judgment are a strong part of the Olivet...
  11. Audie

    The stars shall fall from heaven...

    Not fully, but they sure did not know much. And people did, many probably still do thing shooting stars are stars falling. I so often see the thing about "context" that I tend to think of it as a way of saying "I am unassailably correct". Maybe you dont mean it so, but, you know what I mean...
  12. amatuerscholar

    The stars shall fall from heaven...

    It's quite plausible that Jesus did say this. However, it is unlikely that he meant this literally as he is using Hebrew scripture here, which was meant to be metaphorical to begin with. He really is looking at Ezekiel 32:7, as well as a few other verses such as Amos 8:9 and Joel 2:10-11. He's...
  13. U

    Three Days and Three Nights

    I believe the best answer you are going to get in terms of what you vaguely here are calling commonality was in post #108 by Metis. This is the commonality upon which the phrase is based, not some common idiom. Nonetheless, the closest possible idiom of which I would be aware would be 1 Samuel...
  14. SkepticThinker

    Did Jesus die and rise from the dead?

    No, that's you. You are projecting. Why are you changing the subject now? You never even replied to the other one. Sorry but I'm not interested in any Gish Gallops. I don't know what this is supposed to be, or why you've changed the subject.
  15. Spartan

    Did Jesus die and rise from the dead?

    You automatically kick everything to the curb. But here's one you can't make go away: “‘In that day,’ declares the Sovereign Lord, ‘I will make the sun go down at noon and darken the earth in broad daylight….I will make that time like mourning for an only son, and the end of it like a bitter...
  16. sayak83

    Genesis & Science - Friend or Foe?

    I could not make head or tail of this post. I suspect very few others will be able to either. Explain again, clearly this time. The simplest explanation of using different words is to have a poetic effect, as is common is most poetical writing. Gen 1 is clearly hymn like in nature. It is...
  17. Dan From Smithville

    Genesis & Science - Friend or Foe?

    It is like a Gish Gallop on steroids and even more intentionally confusing than the work of that infamous creationist. It says so much and says nothing at all. Of course there are the gratuitous and obligatory answers in the form of new claims not established as fact. Still we are left with...
  18. Subduction Zone

    Genesis & Science - Friend or Foe?

    It does not matter where we know the light to be from today. It matters what the Bible says. By reading Genesis it is rather apparent that the writers of it did not fully understand that the Sun was the cause of the light. Let's look at the verse of Genesis: Genesis 1 13-15: 11 Then God...
  19. nPeace

    Genesis & Science - Friend or Foe?

    Right. So since I am not able to respond to all these posts with 1, 2, 3, 4 5, 6, persons responding to every post I make (I won't have any time to live if I tried to keep up), I will make things easy for everyone, including myself. I will return to what is claimed to be good science - namely...
  20. 1robin

    Do Athiests have morals?

    This side issue will take an entire discussion of it's own to cover. If you want to test this one let's drop the rest, if you want to debate the rest let's drop this one. Allah has definite characteristics: he is not a father, has no son, is not a triune being but a single (and thus incomplete)...
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